Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 02:07:25 JST
Ardainian Hebrew IsraeliteJust going by their media, Japan is essentially a more religious country than America, which has been spiritually dead for some time now. Religion isn't about being vaguely nice to go to fluffy cloud heaven, religion is what cements your place in the grand cosmos through your connections to your ancestors, your community, and your creator. The last really popular mainstream Western media to even touch on this idea was The Lion King, in which Mufasa in the clouds spoke to Simba and held him to account for not taking up his proper place within the Circle of Life. I wouldn't describe Japan as particularly religious, but anime and the like will occasionally touch on the religious idea, the idea of the transcendent, of your place in the grander scheme of things. Things like Erwin's speech and the baby scene from Xenoblade 3 do a better job of conveying the religious ideal than anything I've seen in recent Western media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hh8qaajIXk
@ArdainianRight I think the best example of Japan being more religious than America is passive: they keep the same holy places, observe the same rituals, and honor their same ancestors on holy days as those same ancestors did. Much fuss is made by nerds about how they don’t literally believe in those old Shinto gods but A) I am dubious of how true that even is and B) I don’t think nearly as many Americans have a consistent belief in the reality of their religion as the purported religiosity of America would indicate.
In other words: the people who go to the same beautiful centuries old temples as their ancestors once a year to pray to their old gods are more meaningfully religious than the people who build new churches that look like industrial parks where they pray to MLK for trans rights with a vague and amorphous theology cooked up in the 60’s
@jimmybuffettfanaccount One big thing is you're actually allowed to portray such simple traditions in mainstream Japanese entertainment, and even do so positively, because it's not controlled by Jews who seethe at the slightest hint of Christianity. Religion is what anchors you to the past, to your community, and to your culture, as well as your creator, and embarrassedly shoving it into a closet renders the whole thing rather toothless. The Charlie Brown Christmas Special is a small sliver of cultural Christianity that managed to embed itself in pop culture in spite of Jewish gatekeeping, and the fact that that's the exception rather than the rule highlights the rot in our culture.
@ChristiJunior That kind of view functionally serves a lot of the same purposes as religion. The whole point of religion is that you are very small and weak in a vast cosmos, and you must understand and accept your place to find meaning in a scheme much greater than yourself. If you look at religion as a purely transactional thing(I be nice, I go to fluffy cloud heaven) that completely guts the whole thing. You are born powerless into a world and society not of your own creation, and you must accept and learn to work within these natural constraints. Religion is not chosen, it is given. God simply is, the world around you simply is, regardless of your actions, choices, or desires, and you must come to terms with that.
@ArdainianRight Seems more like (good) Existentialism than religion to me. Erwin's speech is essentially about carving out meaning and purpose in a cruel and unfair world, not just on an individual basis, but by giving purpose to the lives that came before you, and passing on the torch to those who live on. Xenoblade 3's pro-natalism is also about the latter (and NPC dialogue makes it pretty explicit about there being a strong social pressure on City people to start families). Ultimately, it's about living for something greater than yourself, and indeed, that is very much an unfashionable concept in modern American culture, with faggot Pride in particular celebrating people who put their selfish, individual desire over everything else.
@ArdainianRight Yep. How often do you see religion as a part of life in Japanese media? In pretty much all of it. How often do you see religion as a part of life in American media? Pretty much just Charlie Brown’s Christmas.
@ChristiJunior Of course I wouldn't even say anime is particularly strong in terms of religion and higher meaning, just simply touching on such things at all, even in a sanitized, non-sectarian way, goes much further than Western media will dare. It highlights just how spiritually dead America is, and once you see that you can't unsee just how disturbing and unnatural it is.
@Remi Simply going through the motions in a communal setting can provide you with a feeling of spiritual connectedness and belonging. And again, the point isn't that Japan is particularly religious, it's that American pop culture is totally spiritually dead and this fundamentally degrades our nation and society.
@ArdainianRight The idea that you can pick and choose religion or even sever it from yourself just because you don't "believe" seems to be an entirely American phenomenon up until recently when you started seeing it in Europe too.
@ArdainianRight@jimmybuffettfanaccount The push for more "secular" works in the West (particularly animation) was another symptom of just advertising and sponsorship to the kids. Even the Charlie Brown Christmas special had some sponsorship back when it first aired. Now it's a lot of hypocrisy disguised as a punchline. A_Charlie_Brown_Christmas_CocaCola.png
@berkberkman@jimmybuffettfanaccount But why shouldn't kids be taught about religious traditions? God is an easily digestible concept for kids that teaches them about the idea of authority and that the world doesn't just revolve around them. Even if you don't believe it's still socially useful.
@ArdainianRight@jimmybuffettfanaccount I wish that there were more great works with Christian influences and themes that aren't on just some "faith-based" network. Sadly, that type of production is still seen as something weird to lots of people. unnamed.png
@ArdainianRight Friendly reminder that Erwin and all his men died in vain. I agree with your point, I just feel the need to express my outrage at how that story turned out every time someone mentions the good parts. Also, sorry if this turns out to be a duplicate message. I'm having weird posting issues for some reason.
@ArdainianRight@berkberkman@jimmybuffettfanaccount >But why shouldn't kids be taught about religious traditions? Funny you mention religious traditions, because most children are taught the Coca-cola/fantasy version of Saint Nicholas, as an inversion of religious faith.
@ArdainianRight@jimmybuffettfanaccount Don't forget the shabbos goyim and White atheist scum too, What's-her-name, the infamous atheist bitch of the 60's and 70's before your militant internet atheists, sued the government after the Apollo 8 crew's Genesis broadcast on Christmas.
I am studying the Japanese language precisely because Western media has been evil by design and by default for ages. Japanese culture embraces humanity, both the good and the bad, and isn’t afraid to call evil evil