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1. Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:20:38 JST Thorwegian ❄️

   i wonder if acting in your own best interest is something you learn from your parents, or are some people just naturally better at it than others?

   seeing as i have ADHD and people who have that tend to have self control issues, and the trait is highly inheritable, i assume there's a large genetic component to it.

   the urge to do stuff i shouldn't is often overpowering. it's usually nothing crazy but i definitely shoot myself in the foot a lot.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:20:34 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @thor do you mean you can tell which kids had Ritalin because of a specific physiological change or did they scan people's brains before and after treatment. I'm curious how you know a change is from the drug vs other life events.
   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:20:36 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     it's a bit like having an adult mind but your repertoire of action is that of a disobedient child. and it doesn't go away. you don't grow out of it.

     in cases where people who take ADHD meds as kids quit them as adults: studies have found that the medications actually cause changes in the brain. giving Ritalin to a child actually has a permanent effect since it affects a brain that is growing. i guess the brain sort of adapts to it and then it becomes permanent.

   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:20:37 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     i probably wouldn't have a single serious financial or health problem today if it weren't for this inability to control urges, and this tendency to get overpowered by emotion, both of which belong to the broader category of self regulation, which happens in the prefrontal cortex of the brain, and is of course an ADHD symptom.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:39:10 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @thor I don't know what in the brain is underdeveloped physiologically with ADHD, but I don't feel personally that Ritalin improved my life. I will admit though I didn't take it as regularly as they prescribed it because it messed with my brain in ways I wasn't really comfortable with. I used to pretend to take it and drop it behind the water fountain. There might have been some highly attentive rodents in that school haha
   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:39:11 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @thatguyoverthere with developmental disorders, early intervention can improve outcomes drastically. when there are drugs that can change those outcomes that you could potentially quit once you're an adult, this is further amplified.

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   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 19:39:12 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @thatguyoverthere there are several studies that suggest various beneficial effects on the brain anatomy. i assume they compared groups of treated people with groups who received placebos, as is usually done in these cases. some of the studies i found after a quick Google search were animal studies but not all. there seems to be general agreement among the specialists that this occurs, in various ways.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 22:15:13 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Soy_Magnus @thor yeah I guess my confusion is on a few points.
     
     1. How does this "malfunction" show up in a visual scan?
     2. What change occurs that is visible on a scan?
     3. How can you know that the change is actually a change from Ritalin and not some other social/environmental factor[s]?
   • Soy_Magnus (soy_magnus@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 22:15:14 JST Soy_Magnus

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     @thatguyoverthere @thor add and ADHD are both a chemical mechanical malfunction in the brain where if someone's not interested in the material presented the synapses that are associated with building short term memory don't fire electrical signals
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   • Soy_Magnus (soy_magnus@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 23:58:38 JST Soy_Magnus

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     @thatguyoverthere @thor oh I have no idea about that. Here's an interesting video questioning questionings like what your questioning. I think if I remember right it was measured by an EKG machine and that's how they identified the lack of electrical firing between synapses I'll see if I can find one of the videos about it. And as to the effects of drugs I know they have long term damage but I've never heard this idea of learned behavior chemical exposure is always assumed the culprit until its proven otherwise in my line of work
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   • Soy_Magnus (soy_magnus@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 00:33:12 JST Soy_Magnus

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     @thatguyoverthere @thor I've seen a couple pieces from this guy but I think this is the one I watched. Its worth taking the time to understand the material if that's something that your interested in. It changed my outlook and approach to life
     https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=ouZrZa5pLXk
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