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IMO there isn't enough discussion about how much of a fucking simp N is. Dude literally threw away EVERYTHING, his goals, his ideals, even his own children, just so he could spend eternity with his wife, who didn't even want that.
Ofc this makes Noah a huge fucking simp too but at least he doesn't go that far.
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@ignika98 Uh, I've seen plenty of discussions and memes about that....
Also, maybe it's just me, but I've always had this belief that you should as a rule value your child over your spouse, dunno if that is a hot take or not, but N is obviously not a believer in that (poor Ghondor).
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Yeah ofc. IMO once you have a child they become THE single most important thing in you and your wife's lives.
Speaking of children, Xenoblade 3 was the first game in the series to outright have childbirth and family as important themes. But Xenoblade 2 did touch on the idea as well in it's own way.
One of Jin's biggest gripes with the world was how blades are bound to humans and are forced to return to their cores when their driver dies, stripping them of their memories in the process. Many blades, not just Jin, considered this a cruel and unfair fate. And on the surface it seems like it is.
However, let me pose the question: is there any meaningful difference between a blade being summoned from it's core, and a human having a child?
Both share an unbreakable bond from the moment they appear, both rely on each other for most if not all of their lives, and most importantly, both are used to pass down knowledge and goals beyond the scope of one's lifetime.
Hell, you see some blades taking care of old civilians like adult children would take care of their parents. Vess springs to mind immediately. I think that's an often overlooked theme of Xenoblade 2. And one that deserves more analysis.
You could even go as far as to say that flesh eaters are a metaphor for children from broken homes, or orphans. After all, the preatorium made all the flesh eaters you see in game. And Amalthus' backstory is essentially just that. He has his parents ripped away from him at a young age, helping spark his hatred for the world. You could say that his flesh eater experiments were a way to try and push his own suffering and trauma onto others.
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@ignika98 The Flesh Eater situation is very interesting, because they are prime examples of Objectively Disordered beings; Blades simply aren't meant to outlive their Drivers, just like humans aren't meant to live for 500 years, so it makes sense that every member of Torna both hates the world and is essentially suicidal. Nia only seems to have overcome that impulse by first turning to Jin as Driver-substitute, and later on fully forming a Driver-Blade relationship with Rex.
Another thing: The relationship between Driver and Blade seems to dictate how successful the Flesh Eater transformation is. Jin became the ultimate Flesh Eater because his relationship with Lora was so strong (hence why his core crystal becomes pure red, rather than a mix of red and blue like all the other Flesh Eater cores), but that's also why the process destroyed him mentally, he least of all was prepared to lose his Driver.
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@ChristiJunior @ignika98 Your child is an extension of yourself and your spouse designed to outlive you both. So that's only logical. Unless your kid betrays you and troons out, then it's time to pull the plug.
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@ChristiJunior @ignika98 The level of hatred and ungratefulness trannies have for loving parents who tell them the truth instead of pandering to their delusions is incredible and disgusting. Your forbears fought in wars, endured plagues and famines, and struggled to eke out a living in a cruel and hostile world, sacrificing everything to give you the opportunity for a nice life, and you're just gonna throw all that away so you can masturbate in the girls' bathroom in a skirt?
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