@CrushBead@BigDuck hopefully that one is a given. If not it just takes a few days and whatever was prioritized over water will be available for others to use.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck I have the well. If the well fails either to my solar battery bank dying or mechnical failure I have the creek. If the creek is no good because of pollution of other contamination I have 165 days of water to hold me over until until the fall or spring rainy season begins and I can collect more.
@CrushBead@BigDuck I don't have a well, but I do have a few months worth stocked in the basement and equipment to setup rain catchment if needed (it's illegal to actually set up where I am although I'm looking for a covert way to do it off of the garage for the garden)
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck If you have a downspout in your backyard or something away from immediate view you can install a diverter mid spout and have it funnel off to storage tank in a discreet location.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck Provided you live in an area where it gets hot enough you can make an evaporation still if you have tarp and 550 cord. If you have electrical backup plans like a solar array or an LP invertor you can can just get a countertop distiller. If you are planning on using solid fuel you should talk to @nugger as that is one of his personal autism triggers and I have seen him posting about them quite frequently.
@CrushBead@BigDuck@nugger yeah my electrical backup is a long way from done, and my expectation is that solid fuels are going to generally be more available in a scenario where I NEED a still so if/when I build one I'd prefer to build one with that in mind.
I was planning to using one of those 250 gallon containers to build a bio-digester and harvest methane, but as of yet I don't have anything that can use it except my stove which is currently hooked up to propane. When I was more psyched about my diesel generator I was hoping to convert the methane to methanol for biodiesel, but I have a hard enough time getting fats for soap locally now, I can't even imagine actually being able to make biodiesel in a scenario where global trade is not available. I don't have any capacity to store the methane so it would be use or lose. Even if I had a bag big enough to hold a useful amount of methane I have nowhere to keep it, but I have pretty much everything I need to make the digester. I don't know how much methane you actually produce with one, but maybe one day I'll actually get it built and see what it can do.
@mangeurdenuage@CrushBead@BigDuck my situation is a bit different. rain storage is outlawed in city limits which I am in. It's hardly a city honestly, but the municipal water company is the only option for tap, and they charge 1:1 water to sewer unless you can drop another 10k to get a separate meter installed for hose lines. Having ducks and trees and a garden this gets kind of expensive since I go through a lot of water outside and I'm effectively being double charged. If I can sneak a few barrels for outdoor use it will be a huge win for me. I'm looking at doing it off of the garage though because it's further back from the street and I think I can conceal it easier.
@CrushBead@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck >If you have a downspout in your backyard or something away from immediate view It's currently fully on spot sadly, but it's the only space that I can't garden on. Legally speaking I'm not doing anything non legal, even if I use it for in house usage it's ok since I pay a defacto water treatment tax even if I consume 0L.
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@thatguyoverthere w, I wasn't actually addressing you. I was just using your post as an example of what a diverter looks like for that guy over there.
@CrushBead@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck I actually have a diverter I bought a few years ago before I looked up the law. There was a period where we had the city driving by taking pics and bitching about how many chickens we had or a pile of sticks or some other nonsense every other week and there was no way I could get away with it. Things have calmed down since then, I even have a rooster which is not allowed and I've had government vehicles around when he's singing and not seen a letter (knock on wood).
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead they claim the ban on barrels is a mosquito measure, but they also don't allow wells and septic systems (my house actually had a septic system and I assume well before the city water and sewer lines existed).
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead I think I had a bitchy neighbor. I went around and gave the likely culprits eggs and that was actually the last I saw a letter threatening thousands of dollars in fines if I didn't move a toolbox lol
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead when I asked about digging a well I was told that the caverns below the town make it a risk to neighbors. I don't know how they'd feel about a cistern if I were to try and go a legal route.
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead exactly. It's not like the mosquito problem is impossible to address. the regulations could be around ensuring you aren't a pest, but they want to be in charge of your water. then they send out annual notices about the water quality and I'm like "I'm not drinking that" so I have to have water trucked in. I have a whole wall and then some dedicated to holding 5 gallon water jugs and a water dispenser in our kitchen.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead >they claim the ban on barrels is a mosquito measure :brain3: Because obviously there isn't any possible methods to avoid that.
I agree with the need to avoid mosquitoes, I'm currently gonna do something do avoid that, if they' are concerned then they should have made it mandatory to have anykind of filter/net but they didn't, they're just justifying their tyranny it seems.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead >when I asked about digging a well I was told that the caverns below the town make it a risk to neighbors. That's understandable, we have that issue here too but it's not forbidden even tho we have to dig quite deep (180~200Metters). One farmer had a collapse a year or two ago on his land, it was an old carrier where they extracted rocks for the cathedral.
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead yeah it's fair, but they don't even allow exploration. I'm willing to bet there was a well on this property once. There was septic tank, and the sewer pipe runs through what's left of it.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead I live in front of the water tower of my village and two days ago maintenance dudes closed everything and we got a notice to stop drinking it for the next two weeks.
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead we had a boil notice not that long ago because they are upgrading our area with fiber and they busted a water line somewhere
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead but they've also had high lead levels in the water. They determined it was due to their use of chlorine so they switched to chloramine which doesn't evaporate out of the water. I learned the filters I was buying were not taking it out so I had to find filters that specifically say they remove chloramine because it prevents my chicken feed from fermenting and probably kills microbes in the soil.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead >They determined it was due to their use of chlorine :aniwhat: I'm pretty sure it's because they still have leadpipes somewhere and it's cheaper to blame the chems they use.
>they remove chloramine because it prevents my chicken feed from fermenting and probably kills microbes in the soil. >chloramine Holy shit are they retarded ?! It's a carcinogen if ingested !
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead Yes they have lead pipes somewhere. They say chloramine won't accelerate corrosion the way chlorine does. It also turns out to be cheaper although that wasn't mentioned in the pamphlet. Apparently it's somewhat common these days, but yeah I don't want to drink it. It's sad because I live in a wealthier part of West Virginia. I can't imagine what the people in greenbrier put up with.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead >They say chloramine won't accelerate corrosion the way chlorine does That's only true one very old infrastructures not on cooper, ceramic or even "plastic" pipes.
>Apparently it's somewhat common these days I say it, fucking morons it's an oxidant it causes cancer ffs.
@mangeurdenuage@BigDuck@CrushBead quite possibly. They are frequently flooded out so maybe they are less prickly about their people being prepared for disasters.
@thatguyoverthere@BigDuck@CrushBead >I can't imagine what the people in greenbrier put up with. Maybe they don't have to put up with anything hand just collect rain water :shrugz: