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1. UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:28:53 JST UnLodedDiaper

   • matrix07012 :thotpatrol: :cunnyEmpire:
   @matrix I always find interesting how humans always circle back to some form of religious thought, even when their too ashamed to believe in a "sky daddy".
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   • マタナ (matana@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:29:36 JST マタナ

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     @LodedDiaper @matrix explaining unknown shit by supernatural isn't something new or cool or trendy, or invented by jews

     and those who reject sky daddy belief, mostly do that because we get absolutely nonsense rules imposed on us excused by said sky daddy "existence"

     so it's really pathetic how christcucks and alike try to use more scientific spoken theories of higher beings as "gotcha", because no fellas, your guy is absolutely fake

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   • matrix07012 :thotpatrol: :cunnyEmpire: (matrix@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:36:23 JST matrix07012 :thotpatrol: :cunnyEmpire:

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     @matana @LodedDiaper Simulation theory is as much a religious theory as one of the thousands of sky daddies and mommies.
     The braindead gotchas they do are more akin to "you didn't literally see animal evolve with your own eyes, therefore you believe in evolution"

   • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2: (applejack@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:40:03 JST applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

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     @matrix @matana @LodedDiaper Ye but either way the gotchas never ever result in "ergo, yeshua is god", it's just "some entity made everything"

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   • UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:59:28 JST UnLodedDiaper

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     @matana @matrix I never said any of that. You see deities everywhere, I'm not demanding you worship Israel's god. My point is stuff like this is no more "scientific" then Yakub Odin or the cursed Yahweh.
     
     Really there is no objective way to prove any god, if we could study a god they not be gods to begin with. Really trying to "prove" my god to is pointless.
     
     Whether god exists or not, is not what im trying to say. Man is not an purely objective creature, and history has repeatedly shown cultures with no contact to each other making some form of god, whether it be a man or an idea, or an "sky daddy". This is still happening, but now we use "scientific" terms, how is simulation theory any different then saying a god made this world?
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   • マタナ (matana@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 05:59:43 JST マタナ

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     @LodedDiaper @matrix words and their meaning alongside context are important, so "theory" is always more respectable than "OBJECTIVE TRUTH, OBEY"

     otherwise, I am not debating theology with a username "LodedDiaper" /thread

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   • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2: (applejack@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:00:16 JST applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

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     @matrix @matana @LodedDiaper Honestly the only good argument I know of for god would be consciousness. I can't explain the ghost in the machine, but I've hardly ever seen religious people use this point

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   • UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:00:44 JST UnLodedDiaper

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     @matrix @matana Those people confuse me to no end, dog breeding is a literal instance of man doing selective evolution, which was been recorded and is and an industry. Something can evolve even after their created by whoever god.
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   • UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:01:07 JST UnLodedDiaper

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     @matana @matrix Mean i agreed. It's a personal conviction.
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   • UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:01:14 JST UnLodedDiaper

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     @applejack @matrix @matana The ghost in the machine is very much a contemporary theory of soul in my mind. Thought the idea of soul could exist in other creatures as well honestly, depending on how a species interprets their dreams or their body.
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   • matrix07012 :thotpatrol: :cunnyEmpire: (matrix@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:07:54 JST matrix07012 :thotpatrol: :cunnyEmpire:

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     @matana @LodedDiaper People tried to prove scientifically the existence of god and there's a lot of literature arguing for it.
     It ultimately depends on if you can prove we live in a simulation. And so far there isn't really proof for it.

   • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2: (applejack@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 06:08:27 JST applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

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     @LodedDiaper @matana @matrix

     If consciousness involves action instead of just pure perception, then it would have to depend on physical mechanisms in the brain, since it affects conscious behaviour, so animals must have some version of the same thing

     But then how does the progression work? I've thought whether computers have some form of it since they have something kinda sorta similar

     It makes sense that something like this would have evolved. Brains are huge and extremely complex, with each neuron working basically as it's own CPU, so there would have had to have been a central coordinator so we don't get half of our brain going left and the other half going right, something like semaphores in computing

     But still, why am I so sure I don't feel like a computer?

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   • UnLodedDiaper (lodeddiaper@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 17:50:56 JST UnLodedDiaper

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     • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:
     @applejack @matana @matrix Interesting thing is there are cases where neurons where used as computers. They took neurons from a rat and grafted them to a computer, and then train them on flight sims.
     
     This confirms my theory that half of fedi users are just rat neurons trained on fedi. ( https://invidious.varishangout.net/watch?v=1w41gH6x_30 )
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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 17:51:02 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @LodedDiaper @matrix
     I agree with you, that it's lame as fuck. If you don't know, just say: I don't know. It's not that difficult.

     Also, saying "maybe it was a supreme being" and "it was definitely a Supreme being" are two different arguments, but that doesn't change the fact, that in the end, people do have a tendency to just assume a creator for some reason.

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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2023 17:51:14 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     • applejack 🇮🇸:hitlergrin2:

     @applejack @matrix @matana @LodedDiaper
     I think, that conceousness can be derived from a survival selection.

     If evolution is driven by dying off of unfit, then from all the steps needed for an organism to survive, you eventually get a concept of "me" needed for any planning to be possible.

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