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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:15:37 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   • Sugizo

   GIrls like her are the ones I constantly tell everyone to hunt for. There are solid wives just hiding from the world, because - let’s be honest - the ‘good’ guys have largely checked out.

   Imagine you’re a normal - not insanely hot or anything, just a normal gal - going out and about. Where do you look for a man? The kind of guy you want, a man who wants to get married and settle down, isn’t hanging out in society. He’ll have brief attempts online before getting demoralized and dating a poor selection for a while, spending most of his time at work or school.
   
   RT: https://poa.st/objects/45fdb8f7-077c-462b-99c2-37f783fa7ef8

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:16:04 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Sugizo

     @Sugizo How do you, as a normal 6 girl, get his attention and get him to show interest?

     Men today are blind to flirting, too scared of institutional warnings about harassment and rape to be willing to take a shot and ask you out. You’re far too shy to ask him either, at best you corral some ‘friends’ for a group date masquerading as a ‘hang out’.

     Worse, the guys say they want a gf and wife, but will just as frequently high five each other to cancel on YOU and play video games in their room instead.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:16:07 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Sugizo

     @Sugizo Church? Sure, one of the better places, but be ready because the dudes there ARE looking to wed, and you’ll likely have a handful of suitors (the washed up freaks nobody married yet, desperate and low-quality) bugging you every week until you finally give up and stop going altogether.

     “Oh well go after your interests!” they say, not realizing that those too are tapped out. Join a club? Everyone’s in a relationship, the singles weirded out by being the eternal 3rd wheel. A team? fun, except there’s only one marriagable man there and he has a ton of attention from 3 other girls all driving to the hoop, and after a month or two you find out they’ve all slept with him. Huh.

     Men aren’t hunting for wives any more, it’s hard, and if we’re honest with ourselves we’re slacking off on our search after a few years of failure. (Pickiness too, but that’s a whole OTHER thing)

   • Twoinchdestroya (twoinchdestroya@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:22:24 JST Twoinchdestroya

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     • Sugizo

     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo People quickly blame women for being sluts and not wife material, but those very same men are obsessed with porn and hookup culture just as much.

     A whore economy doesn’t just happen, buyers need to exists, and too many men just want a pretty hole whenever they feel like it. It’s disgusting on both sides.

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:23:14 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Twoinchdestroya
     • Sugizo

     @Twoinchdestroya @Sugizo “I want a virgin wife!“ is hard to hear when you realize the female equivalent is “I want a man untained by 50,000 hours of pornography“

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:24:51 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @Nou @Sugizo Do you work with women?

     “Guys just don’t ask you out anymore!” is a common refrain. The only interest that is shown is for temporary one-off sex, and that’s a different parallel economy.

     Many girls are just destroying themselves thinking they can fish in the pool of playboys and convince one to join the old school dating to marriage pipeline. It never works, but it’s the only sphere that has some kind of functional meeting system.

   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:24:52 JST Nick

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo I mean, I know this is the Narrative. But other than the fear of harassment allegations I see zero evidence of any of it.
   • Will2Power (will2power@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:26:25 JST Will2Power

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     • Twoinchdestroya
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Twoinchdestroya @Sugizo Women like that are going to be hard to come by. My standards are already selective enough:
     1) White
     2) Not fat
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:27:58 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Twoinchdestroya
     • Sugizo

     @Twoinchdestroya @Sugizo Most of us are, in some form or another. When they try to study the effects on pre-pubescent brains, they can’t even find control groups of boys who haven’t seen porn yet.

     I know guys hate to hear it, but they are in feel equivalent, in that it colors your future relationships, bonding, and expectations. Sure, morally it’s not a 1:1, but to a woman’s instincts she’ll have alarms blaring of her own just like us.

   • Twoinchdestroya (twoinchdestroya@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:27:59 JST Twoinchdestroya

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     • Sugizo

     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo It’s painfully true as I am in the latter category, unfortunately.

   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:37:58 JST Nick

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo As I said, men not wanting to approach women is the only one I see with any credibility to it.
     I see exactly zero evidence that the men who do land dates are not looking for a relationship/marriage, or that they are routinely blowing off their girlfriends to play vidya.
     This seems like it's almost certainly an invention of the demographic that gave us the idea of the wage gap or the claim that being a stay-at-home mom is the height of oppression.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:37:58 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @Nou @Sugizo I’m taking this from people I know and see, where the hell else would I be taking this from?

     I literally know a 22 yo guy whose gf dumped him because he kept blowing her off to play vidya with his faggot friends

     Hell, I’VE blown off plenty of women to do other, more fun stuff. I’m offended you even think I’m regurgitating my view of the world from media instead of the stuff I see firsthand.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:39:24 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :cornbread_going_goblin_mode: Elfie :nafo:
     • Sugizo

     @Elfie @Sugizo oh yeah, it’s always ‘ooooh ahhhhh’, that’s how it always starts…..then later there’s running and uh, uh…screaming

     (because your latina turns 25 and evolves into her 3rd form, *El Chanclón)

   • :cornbread_going_goblin_mode: Elfie :nafo: (elfie@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:39:25 JST :cornbread_going_goblin_mode: Elfie :nafo:

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo
     I agree with you :chad0:
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   • Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies (rupertvonripp@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:39:32 JST Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Nou @Sugizo This is why I married the girl who would play games at the table across from me. I'd hate to be younger me today, sounds like a doomscape.
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   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:50:08 JST Nick

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo Your immediate response was to ask if I work with women. Suggesting I should be taking their word on what they are experiencing in the dating market. That was the demographic I was criticizing, not the media.
     
     I would put money on the fact that for every 10 guys dumped for not wanting to get married it was at some absurdly early stage in the relationship, or he had every intention of proposing and he was doing something along the lines of saving up for a ring. Likewise, I have no doubt a similar ratio of men "blowing off" their girlfriend did so once or twice rather than regularly, and did so on nights where they had no plans and she merely had an expectation of doing something (which she failed to inform him of.)
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:50:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @Nou @Sugizo You were acting like I’m parroting a media narrative, I’m saying I routinely, consistently hear women 18-45 whining about how guys aren’t flirting, asking them out on “real dates”, and aren’t even hanging out after work anymore.

     We don’t have regular crew assignments, so IDK about how a more stable rotation of people would be, but I always try to escape a post-flight hangout at the bar, and from the dudes I talk to I’m far from the only one. Guys are keeping their distance way more than we did even 10 years ago, and the women notice.

     There’s a dedicated horndog population that will “ask” but it’s only for one night and some sex, nothing past that, and after a few (okay, few dozen) cycles of that the ladies start to snap out of it and complain that “everybody just wants me for sex, no one wants to actually love me!”

     My line of work is atomized for sure, but I don’t remember flight attendants as being perenially single whores as a general rule, they used to be normal, have families. That doesn’t seem to be on the table now.

   • mmmfeet (mmmfeet@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 06:50:16 JST mmmfeet

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Nou @Sugizo Men that would have otherwise wanted marriage saw generations of boomer wamen isolate their husbands from friends, family and any social support then tear them to pieces, rob them and steal their kids and homes from them then teach the kiddies to hate dad. Its impossible to walk away unscarred after witnessing generations of spoiled whores gleefully destroy men and their families. Young men today aren't flying the MGTOW banner flag but they're checked out of the marriage market all together. The niggerfied/jewified pua types are generally the only ones making a go of it any more
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   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 07:20:32 JST d

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo women aren't supposed to go hunting for a man, they're supposed to make themselves accessible so men can find *them*
     
     which they don't do
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   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:06:31 JST Nick

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     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo
     @sickburnbro @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo Oh, so me saying he was doing exactly what he admitted he was doing in his next post was "misunderstanding"? Because... that's the literal exact opposite of misunderstanding.
   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:06:32 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo you were misunderstanding his poast, you mean.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:06:33 JST Nick

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     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo >You were acting like I’m parroting a media narrative, I’m saying I routinely, consistently hear women 18-45 whining about how guys aren’t flirting, asking them out on “real dates”, and aren’t even hanging out after work anymore.
     Except I wasn't. I was acting like you were taking women's descriptions of why they broke up as Gospel truth. Which, per your own admission here, sounds like it was accurate. I'm saying you shouldn't do that.
     I've been through enough break-ups personally where I was accused of shit that either flat out never happened or was an incredibly skewed version of events that I'm unwilling to pretend all of the women telling post facto stories about their break-ups are completely accurate and objective.
   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:06:58 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo this is obviously a sore issue for you, but I don't think WOGP takes w*m*ns word on much of anything
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   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:07:00 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo answer the fucking question, numbnuts
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   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:07:01 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo do you think he is lying that he hears this
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:07:01 JST Nick

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     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo
     @sickburnbro @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo I think it would be irrelevant if he hears it if as you claim he isn't inclined to believe woman.
     But, by all means. Stick to your assertion that he is stating things women told him as facts because he doesn't believe them. It will really firm up what a serious person with serious ideas you are.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:07:02 JST Nick

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     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo
     @sickburnbro @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo It appears the only sore spot here is your complete inability/refusal to engage with the English language.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:09:04 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Nick
     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo

     @Nou @sickburnbro @Sugizo The rest of that post I’m telling you I’m seeing this with my eyes too. It’s one thing for women to complain about it, but most of the under-30 guys steer clear of hanging out with women after work. I can’t quite figure out what you’re trying to get at -

     are you saying that lots of guys ARE asking women out on dates without an expectation of sex? Are there lots of men going out of their way to engage women the same way they would have 20 years ago?

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:10:23 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488:
     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @ShariVegas @Nou @Sugizo Have literally seen guys get in trouble for this already, actually. You can’t just bail without cause, you have to pretend to have another commitment to get you out of there, lest the grumpy roasties turn you into the chief for “not being a team player”

   • Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488: (sharivegas@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:10:24 JST Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488:

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Nou @Sugizo >You were acting like I’m parroting a media narrative, I’m saying I routinely, consistently hear women 18-45 whining about how guys aren’t flirting, asking them out on “real dates”, and aren’t even hanging out after work anymore.
     
     It's dangerous to do so. Not that their opinions or ideas matter, but it matters enough that it's been put into law. It's simply illegal to be attracted to a woman that isn't attracted to you. And it may even become illegal at some point to refuse a woman attracted to you. If you call that hyperbole, give it 6 years. If we're not a National Socialist country by then, that will be next.
   • Sprayfoam_Sal (sprayfoam_sal@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:22:19 JST Sprayfoam_Sal

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     • Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488:
     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @ShariVegas @Nou @Sugizo "I have social anxiety and my therapist recommends 8 hours of solitary relaxation after every shift. Sorry about that, mental health is important."
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:22:48 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488:
     • Sprayfoam_Sal
     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @Sprayfoam_Sal @Nou @ShariVegas @Sugizo I usually like saying “ah, rain check, I told my mom/gf I’d facetime her. You guys have fun without me!” and head upstairs

   • The Forbidden Dreamer (forbiddendreamer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:31:39 JST The Forbidden Dreamer

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     • Shari Vegas :windmill_of_friendship: :1488:
     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @ShariVegas @Nou @Sugizo See, that's what you get for being too friendly with the roasties that they think to ask you out.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:31:39 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • The Forbidden Dreamer
     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @ForbiddenDreamer @ShariVegas @Nou @Sugizo Well for us there’s no escape. On an average flight we’re together anywhere from 3 days to a week or two straight, there aren’t many other things to do when you’re spending the night in a new town surrounded by strangers. If you’re lucky the company springs for a place w/ a ‘gym’ but then you’re also screwed if you have the “OMG we can be gym buddies!” type working with you.

     That being said, I still play the social game, being liked is never a bad thing, and I’ve had people I was pretty lukewarm on open up some solid doors for me just because they liked working with me at a diff. job.

   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:45:18 JST Nick

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     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo
     @sickburnbro @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo Or, you have once again magically read very plain English and somehow walked away with the exact opposite message of what was actually said.
   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:45:18 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo you are literally saying "I'm seeing contradictory evidence" so what is your point, then?
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   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:45:19 JST Nick

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     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @sickburnbro @Sugizo Lol. For the third time, you seem to be hyperfocusing on the one thing I'm conceding I see as well. Which is odd.
     I absolutely agree that men are approaching women less, and that it seems to ba result of fear of accusations of harassment. But of the handful of issues you listed in the post I originally responded to, that's the only one I see any evidence of. In fact, I see contradictory evidence for several of the other phenomenon you claim are happening.
   • Sick Burn, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:45:19 JST Sick Burn, Bro

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo
     @Nou @WashedOutGundamPilot @Sugizo you seem assume that because you see one thing happening something else can't be as well.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 08:58:51 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Nick
     • Sick Burn, Bro
     • Sugizo

     @Nou @sickburnbro @Sugizo It’s far from universal, and I have a fairly odd industry and social circle that probably doesn’t scale to represent the average across the country. I DO get to see a pretty wide cross section of the US though, and I generally datamine anyone I can out of interest. As far as a thermometer goes, I’m probably more accurate than a dude living outside a big city, surrounded by a stable social structure.

     Between clients and coworkers I have access to a fairly broad spectrum of demographics, and the consensus is that people aren’t dating like they used to, it’s all shunted into online (therefore predominately sex-focused) apps instead of IRL connections. That colors every interaction downstream, but it’s the only body of water that’s stocked with fish, from their perspective.

   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 04:02:01 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Nou @Sugizo
     If I were on PC, I would continue the list, but I have 2 percent on battery, so I had to make sure I finish the basics.

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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 29-Dec-2022 04:02:02 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     • Nick
     • Sugizo

     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Nou @Sugizo
     it's not like it's hard to get approached.
     try this short checklist:
     Are you listening to music? :no:
     Do you wear overpriced clothes? :no:
     Are you with your friends? :no:
     Are you in a hurry? :no:
     Are you working? :no:
     Are you not smiling? :no:
     Do you look like someone who would have a BF :no:
     Are you in the age, where guessing wrong might get me jailed? :no:
     Are you over 30? :no:
     Are you in a pub? Hell :CirnoForReals:
     Are you working the same job? :blobno: :no: :blobnostar:

     Damn, I think I see your point.