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1. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 09:51:31 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   Anyone who views abortion as more socially corrosive than gay marriage needs to update their priors in the face of recent historical evidence. Abortion is bad and kills babies, but hypocrisy surrounding life and whose lives are and aren't valuable is a pretty normal if unpleasant feature of society. Gay marriage redefines one of the most ancient and universal human institutions, the one which produces new life, and completely separates it from that purpose by expecting everyone to pretend poopdick is every bit as good and valuable. "Her wife" gives way to "her penis," and pretty quickly society becomes completely unmoored from reason and reality.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 09:56:41 JST xianc78

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     @ArdainianRight Both are pushed by anti-natalists, population control advocates, and voluntary human extinctionists. There is a good reason why both "rights" are lumped in with each other.

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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 09:57:23 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     Abortion says someone else's life or death doesn't matter, Gay marriage says your genetic life or death doesn't matter. The latter is far more unnatural and destructive to the social fabric.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 09:57:36 JST Christi Junior

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     @ArdainianRight The gay marriage debate was also when Niceness was most effectively weaponized against the traditionalists: If gays want to get married it would be totally Mean to deny them that right, look at this respectable gay couple, just be Nice and say that they can get married, it doesn't affect you anyway and call the Cool people support it. Surely your silly principles don't matter more than the happiness of actual flesh-and-blood people?
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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:08:04 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     2 gay people living together is hardly what I would call a destruction of marriage. The hetero relationship are not affected by such a life.

     Nah... I cannot accept it. But, would you mind if, if it was a different legal concept? In czech republic, gays can ask for "registered partnership", but not for marriage. But the function is the same.

     And abortion..... it's complicated, but no way can I call murdering babies as bad as not having them.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:08:04 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior Are we sure it doesn't affect us? Marriage rates have plummeted since Obergefell, and June, the traditional month of weddings, has turned into Compulsory Fag Celebration Month. On some level, we're all in the same boat.
   • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up) (echo@stereophonic.space)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:08:12 JST Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)

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     @ArdainianRight They're both just different prongs of the same Satan's pitchfork.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:10:15 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty We're not at a point where it's worth compromising. The compromise position is not throwing them in jail as long as they keep it away from the kids.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:10:16 JST Christi Junior

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     @LukeAlmighty @ArdainianRight Civil partnership for gays would have been a good compromise, but thanks to the LGBTP movement, that will only be viewed as a stopgap measure at most, as they rev up the push for full marriage rights. Treating as equal two things that are inherently unequal, and that it makes no sense for society to treat as equal, is at the core of their movement.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:12:37 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿
     @hachi @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty Trust me, we all know.
   • hachi (hachi@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:12:39 JST hachi

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     @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty But I like kids.
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:12:48 JST Christi Junior

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     • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿
     @ArdainianRight @LukeAlmighty It was also a win for the Civil Rights and Equality ideologues over Tradition and Religion, and the agenda of the former is worse for society than the latter, especially when we're dealing with a civilized/civilizing religion like Christianity and tradition with a proven record of success (not working for sexual deviants and feminists is not failure, just think about how many Straight men our current GloboHomo system is NOT working for).
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   • CrustyB (crustyb@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:13:21 JST CrustyB

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     @LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight I can now write an anniversary card to a heterosexual married couple that says "Happy Anniversary of that ritual you now share with men who stir their erections around in each others' fecal matter." I would not say that the sodomite hijacking of marriage does not affect sexually normal people.
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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:19:11 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight
     This way around, I can at least see some logical chain of steps from A to B.

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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:19:12 JST Christi Junior

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     • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿
     @LukeAlmighty @ArdainianRight There's also an argument that gays were only able to gain access to marriage *because* the institution had already been so severely undermined. Hell, I remember "let gays marry, they have the same right to be miserable as the rest of us" and variations thereof being a popular pro-gay marriage joke.
   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Apr-2023 10:19:13 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior
     Yeah, I am quite sure, that divorce laws, boss babe culture, birth control, random law enforcement of SA laws etc had a much stronger effect on the marriage rates.

     I might be open to changing my opinion of course, but under such an extreme conditions, it is quite a hard variable to prove.

   • Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 00:07:23 JST Nel

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     • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿
     @hachi @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty :siren: :siren: :siren: :siren: :siren: :siren:
     :pedobear: :siren: :siren: :siren: :siren: :siren:
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