@wan @Arkana @wgiwf well there's also really high budget NSFW stuff, and doujin circles getting high budget like Type Moon. According to 16-bit sensation (the manga not the anime "adaptation") after an infamous incident in which a kid stole some random ass NSFW game and the boomers went Jack Thompson in the media over it, the NSFW industry both started to self-regulate but also that's when slowly the production values went up and tones shifted.

I mean, you don't see devs like Alice Soft in the west, or many of the other ones throughout the eras like Elf, leaf, and more. Nor do you see people saying "wow this is a solid game except it has porn scenes but fuck it's a solid game", or treating western NSFW games as a cult thing like weird VHS era movies.

To the west, porn games are always like what James Rolfe reviewed with the Atari Porn episode of AVGN, or meme tier games like Rapelay.