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There are millions of incels with no prospects for the future, working dead end jobs with nothing but an existance of empty consumerism promised to them. Any man who can promise them freedom from bondage will own the future. It goes beyond getting people to vote ofc, the democratic process is corrupted. And joining some fed infested public organization is just asking for trouble. They must instead have a feeling of belonging instilled in them, a cause higher than themselves, but getting them to buy in is the challenge.
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@PraxisOfEvil @Eternal_Iratus The entire purpose of Clown World bureaucracy is to prevent a single ambitious and charismatic figure from gaining traction. Nobody gains any influence through personal merit or accomplishments, they have to demean themselves as ass-kissers and hoop-jumpers. Militaries used to have to have some accountability to avoid external conquest, but MAD ended that. Outsiders who work hard and try to earn their own way inevitably face a very firm bureaucratic ceiling.
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@ArdainianRight @Eternal_Iratus Basically, we can't wait for a leader and have to act ourselves, maybe some segment of the far right can produce a figure we can rally around but I wouldn't bet on it, espescially with the way the system represses said figures. We're on our own, the sooner we can accept that the better.
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@Eternal_Iratus I have accepted that there will be no Hitler 2.0, it certainly won't be Trump, perhaps our incel army can operate sans centralized leadership, work towards helping the people outside a leader. But maybe I'm just talking out my ass
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@PraxisOfEvil >They must instead have a feeling of belonging instilled in them, a cause higher than themselves, but getting them to buy in is the challenge.
I think a Hitler or Caesar 2.0 figure is required to instill a sense of belonging. The issue is that the Post-Modern world has destroyed any capability for such an individual to rise up and become a true leader figure that many can look up too.
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The problem with leaderless groups, especially as GamerGate demonstrated and as the entire "Alt-Right" astroturf and right wing infighting that has gone on since Trump won has proved as well, is that when there is no leader someone will make themselves the leader. Oftentimes the leader might even be worse than the enemy; he might be a grifter, an opportunist, a fraud, an e-celeb looking for the latest ticket to e-fame.
In GG for example there were numerous shit tier political e-celebs who launched their careers with it or went from obscurity to e-famous, Twitter drama whores, BREAKING NEWS GUYS DEEP DIG LOOK AT THIS wannabe journalists (Nick Monroe was one), and many many more.
The right also has massive issues, and I say right because this applies to every section from the far-right poasties to the boomer republicans everyone mocks here. The modern right is a giant collection of people with different ideas, different religions/belief systems, different sexualities, and it falls apart the minute a small victory is achieved because they hate each other more than leftists do. They lack lots of institutions and I mean lots, the big people there genuinely feel like controlled opposition (with the exception of a handful such as James O'Keefe, everything he does gets suppressed for a reason), and certain segments (especially boomers) are very vulnerable to propaganda. Did you see how much of a success Q was for being either (depending who you ask) a disinfo op or some sketchy imageboard owner trying to make money from his site as an example?
There's going to be no right wing celeb savior, even if there is what makes you think he wasn't cherrypicked for this role, anyone can be compromised, and most importantly, waiting for "historical leader I love 2" to come around is "trust the plan" tier inaction at best, and dangerously opening yourself up to propaganda at worst.
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Culture is a weapon IMO, and I think nobody is using this properly. It's not like a lot of people here will anyhow; MDE: WP being canceled blackpilled a lot of people and Sam Hyde's comeback to the public eye has not told them otherwise mentally especially when his new content post WP is very hit or miss, IMO. Or how many times western creators and especially artists keep cucking out like retards (there's a few exceptions).
There's relatively little attempts at creating new culture in this side of the internet outside of /agdg/ or sci-fi writing circles, while in the left wing side of the internet everyone wants to shill their dead Patreon or itch.io. They end up failing because it's oversaturated. Wow, you want to make another shitty LGBT Furry visual novel with nothing interesting about it, wow you're so original.
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@Eternal_Iratus Who does the "pushing" is what matters, and from what I've seen it's members of the right. For nothing else people from our circles are questioning the established practices of the regime, and will need to continue doing to to secure the future. Question everything!
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@PraxisOfEvil The whitepill is that modern western society is in a constant interval between stagnation and decay and the (((architects))) of it are in complete damage control. There's no going back to the original status-quo and all it takes is a push to accelerate the latter.
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@theorytoe I maintain that stealing from some mom and pop store is fucked and whatever consequences the theives face are justified, but as far as theft from big chains go, I could give less of a fuck
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@theorytoe Their new identity will be mayhem, but instead of random acts of vandalism and violence their actions will have a purpose. And that purpose is to disprupt the system as much as possible. It's impossible for them to start a family and own a home? Then it should be impossible for politicians and their corporate benefactos to turn a profit. Billions in retail theft loss is just the beginning, the white man must niggerize beyong just listening to rap music and wearing baggy clothes, he must have dozens of children out of wedlock and rob as many franchise businesses as possible.
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@PraxisOfEvil
Thus why I get guns
They aint robbin from me without a challenge.
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They must have an idendentity instilled in themselves. If they believe what people tell them they are, then they are practically useless, having no ability to climb high.
Its even more surprising that these traits are on an all time low.