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1. 👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:17:06 JST 👺防空識別區👹

   I still don't understand the dislike for XMPP. It's the best self-hosted chat protocol I've yet come across. It's pretty easy to setup, extremely lightweight, and very performant + reliable. People argue that the clients suck or that feature support is fractured, but this has not been my experience thus far. The only thing I've run into as a negative has been OMEMO within MUCs, which can become a mess if you have a MUC with a large number of users.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:17:06 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @adiz Idk either tbh
   • 👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:19:24 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @dcc It's a lot better than Matrix, in my opinion. That's all I know. Otherwise, I use Telegram and WeChat, but neither of those are free nor open source nor genuinely private/encrypted.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:19:24 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @adiz P much, i do host matrix and irc and xmpp my self though since its easier to have every one.
   • 👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:21:24 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @dcc Of those 3, which do you prefer the most? Just curious. Both from a user experience and administration perspective.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:21:24 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @adiz Irc
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:21:55 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @adiz For regular users though xmpp is much easier to use (and has better clients for iphone)
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:34:19 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @adiz >private chats
     It has dm's, i don't think images need to be exactly part of it though. Xmpp is really just good for phones tbh
   • 👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 19:34:20 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @dcc IRC is a little steep for "normies" + it's a bit antiquated and limited for what a lot of people expect nowadays, like private chats and file transfer. XMPP, I feel, is a fantastic replacement for IRC while still providing a similar level of performance and lightweightness. Matrix, in my experience, is really sluggish and bloated as an end-user + I could never really properly set it up or administrate it.

   • 👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 02:41:49 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @dcc I find it swell on desktop as well. My company pays an unknown amount of money for managed Microsoft Teams et al. which doesn't work and is a pain to use. I often wonder how much money they could save, and how much better the experience would be, if they'd simply self-host some other alternative like XMPP or whatever.

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   • Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 05:21:05 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     People argue that the clients suck or that feature support is fractured

     And then their solution is always to try to bootstrap an entirely new chat protocol instead of writing a competent, cross-platform xmpp cient 🤦♀️

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