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1. チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 13:58:17 JST チャノさん

   https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/a-30-million-campaign-to-free-social-media-from-billionaire-control-is-now-underway/ar-BB1rotwo

   >"For the first time, we have a clear pathway to securing the future of social media as a tool for connection, creativity, and joy," Nabiha Syed, Executive Director of Mozilla Foundation

   >The initiative, called "Free Our Feeds," aims to create independent infrastructure around the AT Protocol, an open-source technology that powers the Bluesky social network, and allows anyone to build their own social media applications

   Interesting that Mozilla bailed on Fediverse just last year, saying they needed to focus their resources on the browser and AI shit:

   https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december

   ...yet here they are shilling Bluesky's protocol as the "first time ever" fix for corpo social media.

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   • チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 21:17:25 JST チャノさん

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     @adiz That's what I'd like to know. I just recently discovered that FUTO's shit isn't as "open source" as I thought it was, and I remember how LBRY was technically "open source", but designed in such a way to be as unfriendly/unintuitive to 3rd party developers as possible, so now I'm very skeptical of any supposed "decentralized project" until it proves itself.

     From what I can find via quick search, atproto is dual-licensed under MIT and Apache 2.0, so it appears to get the gold star of approval from the FSF at least:

     https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/tree/main?tab=readme-ov-file#license

     But I have no idea if they're playing any tricks under the hood. The Guides section of atproto makes reference to self-hosting a "Personal Data Server". But I don't understand any of this enough to be able to figure out if there's any fuckery going on.

   • 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 21:17:26 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     @japananon Can AT Protocol even function in an uncontrolled, decentralized way? I though they abandoned that very early on into development, like after their white paper.

   • チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 21:24:06 JST チャノさん

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     @adiz Reading through their FAQ, they say "ActivityPub depends heavily on delivering messages between a wide network of small-to-medium sized nodes, which can cause individual nodes to be flooded with traffic and generally struggles to provide global views of activity. The AT Protocol uses aggregating applications to merge activity from the users' hosts, reducing the overall traffic and dramatically reducing the load on individual hosts."

     I'm curious about these "aggregating applications"... how they function, who runs them, whether they're user-run or if somebody in the AT Protocol/Bluesky dev team is running them exclusively.

   • 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 21:56:11 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     @japananon the capability might be there, but it might require a different development team to work on making it functional.