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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 09:07:10 JST nixCraft 🐧

   What do you think of an open-source app like VLC adding AI to auto-generate subtitles? This is not what VLC users and fans want. Many users don't want anything to do with AI in any form on their system, which again creates privacy issues. Folks who use VLC avoid streaming and other services for a reason. They don't want their data transmitted to parasites like OpenAI, Microsoft, or other AIs. I know VLC doesn't make any money. They need to get feedback from users before adding such a feature.

   • schrotthaufen (schrotthaufen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 09:14:33 JST schrotthaufen

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     @nixCraft Generated subs are hopefully better than no subs. As long as it’s a pre-trained model that runs locally, and only if explicitly enabled, that’s fine by me.

   • Asheville Charlie (avlcharlie@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 09:18:28 JST Asheville Charlie

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     @nixCraft
     To me the problem is deeper than even the security or privacy. It's that sometimes it's just wrong. Maybe I'm old school but you don't give people wrong data on purpose.

   • barbosa 🥭 (easbarbosa@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 09:28:29 JST barbosa 🥭

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     @nixCraft I see that current model of AI are not ideal, to say in a lessen way, but in the future it may be used with privacy and respecting data with no so subtle changes.

   • hexaheximal (hexaheximal@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 10:25:28 JST hexaheximal

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     @nixCraft This isn't an example of "Oh no more generative AI!", and portraying it as such is highly misleading.

     This is just speech-to-text: something that has been around for decades, long before the machine learning hype, and is genuinely useful.

     Also: Automatically transcribing videos without subtitle metadata is obviously a really cool feature from an accessibility perspective!

   • Radio Azureus (radioazureus@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 10:37:26 JST Radio Azureus

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     @nixCraft

     Why create discussion on something controversial of which you know that it has not materialized within The Awesome VLC?

   • mo2k (mo2k@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 11:22:14 JST mo2k

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     @nixCraft As long as you can turn it off, I have no problem with it.

   • hansvschoot (hansvschoot@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 14:59:26 JST hansvschoot

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     @nixCraft the biggest problem is them calling it "AI". How about locally generated subtitles using a neural network to do the speech-to-text translation?

     It is of course a waste of computational resources for 95+% of everything that gets played in vlc, as you can often just download subs. But I can imagine that hearing impaired family members would love this when they watch some home videos of kids birthdays/weddings/graduations/...

   • Rin3d (rin3d@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 11:36:39 JST Rin3d

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     @nixCraft Is it actually ai or is it another algorithm being called ai because idiots don't know the difference?
     Auto captioning algorithms have existed for well over a decade.
     What are they *actually* implementing?