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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:41:49 JST Eugen Rochko

   The moderation policy changes at Meta are deeply troubling and should be a concern to anyone with a conscience. While the fediverse is a decentralized platform where different service providers have different moderation policies, at mastodon.social, hate speech is prohibited, and we will take action on any Threads account found violating our policies. I would strongly urge anyone with a Threads account to reconsider their alignment with the new direction at Meta and move to Mastodon instead.

   • Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦 (grant_m@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:45:58 JST Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦

     in reply to

     @Gargron I already blocked the threads instance.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:46:50 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • Phoenix Paulina Schmid

     @gelbphoenix Absolutely.

   • Phoenix Paulina Schmid (gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:47:41 JST Phoenix Paulina Schmid

     in reply to

     @Gargron Can this be shared on Threads? (As a screenshot or even linked)

   • David August (davidaugust@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:53:11 JST David August

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     @Gargron would be so great if Threads would allow people to shift to a Mastodon instance and migrate their follows and followers as they do.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:53:11 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • David August

     @davidaugust Yes. Sadly the interoperability on Threads' side is still lacking in this aspect, and they cannot move accounts between servers like Mastodon users can. However, at least those who migrate can re-follow their Threads contacts manually to help them make the transition to Mastodon. Maintaining interoperability from our side is important to enable this.

   • KellyAnn Romanych (kellyromanych@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:04:40 JST KellyAnn Romanych

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     @Gargron I hope Social Web Foundation reconsiders Meta as a partner

   • DJGummikuh (djgummikuh@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:09:47 JST DJGummikuh

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     @Gargron so that means that for the moment you continue federating threads at the instance level? Is this subject to ongoing scrutiny in regards to metas behavior?

   • Nickliberos (nicliberos@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:14:57 JST Nickliberos

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     • Mastodon

     @Gargron exactly the reasoning behind my move to @Mastodon

   • a fish named dog 🎗️ (fishnameddog@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:15:53 JST a fish named dog 🎗️

     in reply to

     @Gargron (except for NaziNProud1488 of course, they are welcome to stay on Threads)

   • Chris (chrisparana@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:25:37 JST Chris

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     @Gargron I find negativity generally annoying and counterproductive, which is why I love platforms or apps that allow *me* to decide what to filter out. (I have numerous filters set up in Ivory because while I appreciate someone’s creativity and many things they share, I absolutely do not want to hear their political opinions, regardless of their “side.”) So while I understand your perspective here, I also wonder who determines what constitutes speech that is not allowed in any given category.

   • RJ Nowling (discretestates@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:44:27 JST RJ Nowling

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     @Gargron I do like the community notes feature on Twitter. I’m not suggesting that it replace moderation, but it is a useful addition.

   • Anna Cressy (goanna@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:52:13 JST Anna Cressy

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     @Gargron That's why I'm here. As parent of a trans young person I'm genuinely scared about the consequences of faceplants changes. They were bad enough already.

   • Veedems (veedems@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 04:58:42 JST Veedems

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     @Gargron I appreciate the approach, though. There’s still accounts (especially government ones) that I follow that I would hate to lose but I’m glad the team on mastodon.social is going to be moderating actively.

   • L the Girl in Black (girlinblack@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 05:19:05 JST L the Girl in Black

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     @Gargron Please consider defederating Threads from the instances you manage. They are now, by policy, tolerating harassment of minorities. If you would defederate a mastodon instance that allowed hate speech, you should also defederate Threads.

   • Science Updates (scienceupdates@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 05:19:31 JST Science Updates

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     @Gargron if hate speech is so prohibited on fedi, i should be able to report it when i click on 'report this post'
     rather than having to find another way to specify that it is a violation.

     please, make this place safer before patting yourselves on the back for being the better platform

   • Ryan Scullen (rscullen@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 05:33:21 JST Ryan Scullen

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     @Gargron please just block threads.net. a message needs to be sent these Meta policies aren’t acceptable.

   • Fubaroque (fubaroque@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 05:48:35 JST Fubaroque

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     @Gargron Sounds like you will be doing their moderation. I’m not sure that is a good idea. 🥴

   • Linzay (linzay@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 05:58:46 JST Linzay

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     @Gargron I’ve already been kicked off of Facebook and some other ones so I’ve given up on the idea of free speech because it’s only free speech if you’re spouting the party line

   • Ride Theory (ridetheory@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:06:41 JST Ride Theory

     in reply to

     @Gargron How much harassment from Threads users will be tolerated before the instance is blocked? Do you have a cutoff?

   • Aurora 🐌 (coriopsicologia@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:20:05 JST Aurora 🐌

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     @Gargron Sorry, I don't understand. So .social is blocking Threads?

     That will be great!

   • stavpup (stavpup@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:29:33 JST stavpup

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     @Gargron Is Threads and Bluesky bridged with Mastodon?

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:30:04 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • Fubaroque

     @fubaroque At present we receive very few reports about Threads accounts. 68 in total since its launch. For comparison, we handle about 4.4K reports every month.

   • Fubaroque (fubaroque@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:41:38 JST Fubaroque

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     @Gargron Indeed, but something is going to change at Threads as you very well know. 🤣 #wellseehowthisdevelops

   • Em-squared (emsquared@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 07:03:28 JST Em-squared

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     @Gargron I'm was all for open social media but do feel that the Threads federation experiment is now clearly over.

   • Apan (apan@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 07:03:46 JST Apan

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     @Gargron It's great. The world needs more freedom and diversity of opinions and less of echo chambers, gatekeeping and censorship.

   • Fea the Wanderer (feacrow@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 07:32:08 JST Fea the Wanderer

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     @Gargron been trying to get my friends to join here, no chance sadly...somehow they feel like it's too complicated or don't want yet another account...I do like it here on Mastodon very much, though.
     I've even recently moved from mastodon.online to social to be better able to invite friends...but it is to no avail yet....

   • naught101 (naught101@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 08:31:56 JST naught101

     in reply to

     @Gargron if a mastodon server announced those policies, wouldn't you just defederare from them?

   • Miranda Whiting (mirandawhiting@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 11:26:10 JST Miranda Whiting

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     @Gargron I blocked Threads as soon as it arrived. Meta has always been pretty toxic.

   • Linux Is Awesome (linux_is_awesome@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:10:09 JST Linux Is Awesome

     in reply to

     @Gargron Or CherryPick or Misskey.

     I like Mastodon, but there are other platforms with more options.

   • Vet.Gaming™ (vetgaming@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:15:48 JST Vet.Gaming™

     in reply to

     @Gargron Already moved over to Mastodon, along with Bluesky. These are my primaries, and I still use X, but I'm not in support of Meta apps, and anyone buying into Zuckerburg's "free-speech" community note rhetoric, clearly doesn't understand the end game.

   • Djssjcjeert6 (djssjcjeert6@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 15:14:33 JST Djssjcjeert6

     in reply to

     @Gargron
     Why would somebody want more censorship?

   • David Brookes 🔶🎸 (deembe@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 18:03:23 JST David Brookes 🔶🎸

     in reply to

     @Gargron My 12 year's on Twitters ended in January 2023 and I joined Mastodon. My 18 years on Facebook is being replaced by Bluesky. Pixelfed has replaced Instagram. I'm torn about WhatsApp, my last contact with many friends and real world social networks.

   • Mark Hughes (markhughes@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 19:56:56 JST Mark Hughes

     in reply to

     @Gargron How anyone can say this, watch #Meta behave in the poisonous way it always has, and not advocate blocking #Threads altogether mystifies me.

     I mean, if Twitter were federated would that also be ok?

     How vile do these corporations have to be before we stand up and say that's enough?

   • Offbeatmammal (offbeatmammal@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 21:46:57 JST Offbeatmammal

     in reply to

     @Gargron I worry that the effort of moderating the rising tide of crap from Threads will become detrimental to this server. Do you have a plan that will result in threads being defederated? What is the threshold, and why is the stated direction from Meta enough to trigger severance?

   • Liam (liammcbride@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:52:05 JST Liam

     in reply to

     @Gargron I have a threads account but Its largely been abandoned for the last few months as I take a deep look at what those platforms deliver for their end users. Threads always had a way more corporate feel to it and towards the end of my usage of the platform, began to be filled with more AI Slop as meta desperately looked to keep the platform alive. This aligns with their current plans of AI personas on their platforms which I cannot support.

   • Craig Harden (craigery79@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 11:28:02 JST Craig Harden

     in reply to

     @Gargron Deleting Threads now.

   • eugeekhelsinki (eugeekhelsinki@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 20:49:45 JST eugeekhelsinki

     in reply to

     Check out Gargron's post, it's not too late to migrate to Mastodon!
     https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/113794200140617347

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     @drexlee
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   • Keith 🏳️‍🌈 (nerdykeith@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 04:58:17 JST Keith 🏳️‍🌈

     in reply to

     @Gargron Goon on ya. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Zuch's new changes are totally deeply troubling.

     I exclusively now only use Mastodon and Bluesky because of your sensible and progressive policies on hate speech