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@BowsacNoodle THE ILLIAD ACCOUNT IS "OH WELL THE HEROES HAVE DIED OUT AND OR KILLED EACH OTHER"
BUT THE ILLIAD IS ALSO KIND OF DAMNING OF THESE LARGER THAN LIFE GUYS AS BASICALLY ACTING LIKE THE GODS. THE GODS ARE LIGHT-HEARTED AND THEY RUIN PEOPLE'S LIVES ON A WHIM, AND HEROES ARE ALSO LIKE THAT
THEY'RE SO COOL AND SO STRONG AND YET LOOK AT WHAT THEY FUCKING DO -- THE ONLY THING LEFT AFTER THEM IS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION, AND ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GO HOME AND HAVE PEACE ENDED UP WELL AFTER THE TROJAN WAR.
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Genesis 5: lineage to Noah. People lived a long time when there weren't so many and we needed a boost. Methuselah is believed to have died when the flood starts.
Genesis 6: Nephelim mentioned. Not as a huge deal, but more in passing. It was probably something people just accepted as reality at the time of Genesis' writing that corrupted lines of people existed who were deeply involved in wicked things. The stories must have been well known and remembered. Interestingly I learned of the Chaldean Genesis, which contains another telling of this story and is allegedly older than Moses'. Curious if anyone has thoughts on this .
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@BowsacNoodle WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO ME ABOUT THE WHOLE NEPHILIN/GIANTS/HEROES THING IS HOW IT'S SUPER PREVALENT IN THE BRONZE AGE, AND THEN AFTER THE COLLAPSE IT'S MOPPED UP BY THE SURVIVORS
LIKE, IN MYCENAEAN GREECE YOU HAVE DUDES TAKING BITES OUT OF LIVE PIGEONS, DOING ORGIES, RITUAL SEX, EVERY FUCKIN KIND OF SPIRITUAL STEROIDS TO BECOME THE GIGA-NIGGER WARRIOR
IRON AGE GREECE -- EVEN WITH THE INTEREST IN PROPHECY ALL THE DEMON-POSSESSED ORACLES ARE SLAVES. THE ORACLE OF DELPHI WAS A SLAVE GIRL.
NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF THE WORLD
YOU HAVE ALL OF THE NON-ISRAELITE DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM LIKE EDOMITES OUT THERE KILLING GIANTS
YOU HAVE UNRELATED PAGANS LIKE KING CEDARLAOMER KILLING GIANTS AND THE DISTINCTION IS MADE THAT HIS GUYS ARE JUST REGULAR PAGANS BUT THE ONES HE SUBJUGATED WERE GIANT CLANS
THE IRISH MYTHS ABOUT KILLING GIANTS ARE ALSO AROUND THAT TIME
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Day 2 — Genesis 4-7
Genesis 4
I've read through Genesis probably twenty times in my life and never taken the time to look up any scholarly commentary. I had often heard through evangelical churches "Cain's sacrifice was bad because it was just fruit and you need blood" or an explanation that it was an empty sacrifice not born of faith (scripturally supported) but without much explanation. I looked into commentary on this and found an interesting commentary by Charles Ellicott. The summary being that Cain's sacrifice was obviously not something he did happily (God loves a cheerful giver), God spoke directly to Cain to say as much. Think about that— God still spoke to Adam and Eve and their children the same way He previously did to Adam and Eve. Ellicott also brings up something fascinating about the names, specifically Abel: it was a name given to him, likely postmortem, because of his death.
Abel's sacrifice as an inspiration for later Gnostic beliefs that blood sacrifice is the only thing pleasing to God is interesting too, and appears to be directly refuted by God's gentle criticism of Cain for his unsatisfactory sacrifice and shows a caring attitude towards Cain.
>6So the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is [d]for you, but you should rule over it."
Completely different from the idea of a wrathful OT demiurge type figure we're often told of.
RT: https://poa.st/objects/9880ff24-e655-4f6f-9f29-906a30d93d2c
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