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1. 寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 11:28:51 JST 寮
   Really glad to see that more and more people start to realize that darknet hosting is just superior over clearnet hosting.
   And the more they keep destroying the clearnet, the more people start finding their ways into Tor and/or I2P.
   Because yes, this is how you're supposed to respond to the copyright (which is a scam) mafia!
   
   And for those of you too lazy to type: http://goggamespyi7b6ybpnpnlwhb4md6owgbijfsuj6z5hesqt3yfyz42rad.onion/
   
   CD Projekt's Illegal Coersion Pushes GOG-Games to The Dark Web
   https://social.076.moe/url/251015
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 11:43:58 JST xianc78

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     @ryo Pirated GOG games on the darknet is nothing new.

   • 寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 12:01:38 JST 寮

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     • xianc78
     Yes, I just mean that as they continue to destroy the internet, more and more people will move to the darknet.
     Just like how John McAfee put it; if criminals use something first, it's a matter of time before it becomes mainstream.
     
     The downside of making the darknet into the mainstream is that they will start moving their digital warzone underground as well, though they will have to find other ways of destroying the darknet as it's harder to know where the server is located, and anyone can just host from wherever without requiring anybody's permission at all.
     Which is why I'm rather worried about bringing DNS to I2P (I talked about it earlier this year I think), because one of the reasons we prefer I2P over clearnet is exactly due to a lack of DNS.
   • Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 12:06:09 JST Terminal Autism

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     Cool. May be useful when soon. I'll have to figure out how to get my system working the very specific way that I want it to, but after that my plan is to use the ThinkPad as my main system, and install Windows on my other laptop, so I can play games on it. Downside will be that only having one monitor, so, I may have to swap cables, or just have no good monitor for most things.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 12:27:58 JST xianc78

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     @ryo
     >Which is why I'm rather worried about bringing DNS to I2P (I talked about it earlier this year I think)

     Yeah you have.
     http://asc7ewkcvat2wsoi5yuwkej5ukyrqqnpnzpj4u34r2jxnoxhnbx6yqad.onion/blog/gatekeep-i2p/

     I'm actually kind of mixed on the issue. I understand people wanting to preserve the culture and the darknet is probably the closest thing we have to Web 1.0, but the fact of the matter is that if normies are still using shit like Facebook, Discord, Google whatever, etc then that only ensures the power that those companies have and it affects ALL of us.

     I actually do want normies to become more tech-savy and actually use software and services that actually respect them, including darknet software, for their own benefit. If you can't stand the mainstream culture, there will always be some darknet that would be obscure.

   • 寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 13:12:35 JST 寮

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     • xianc78
     Back in early 2000s everyone had the same mindset, and look at where it brought us.
     Back then we all thought "let's bring normies to the internet, that would be awesome, finally our hobbies will gain attention!", then we finally let normies in, and soon after that shit like Fakebook, Discuck, Goolag whatever etc started accumulating as much power as possible.
     
     Now we have a new case study in the making for those who missed the early 2000s train, which is right here on ActivityPub of all places.
     More and more corporations, governments, big name people, and so on are joining in, and already there have been plans to bribe Gargeon (which has fortunately failed so far, but then again it took quite a few tries for WhatsApp to be sold out too), already we saw people mass-reporting like if it were Shitter, which fortunately some instance owners managed to push back against, and we'll likely see way more attempts at a hostile takeover as the protocol continues to gain more media attention.
     
     And I should add, none of the Fedi protocols had these problems when it was still a niche network that all the big tech users and media still made fun of.
     Same with the clearnet even; back in the 1990s to mid-2000s the internet got attacked for being "a hub of criminals" or "literally drugs" or "a place for total losers to cope", then the normies came in, and all of the sudden it became "the place to be for everyone".
     
     The one difference between then and now however is that now we have a past example of how it ended up if we failed at gatekeeping, there was no knowledge on that yet 2 decades ago.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 23:02:32 JST xianc78

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     @ryo Well, I don't see I2P going mainstream. Tor, maybe, but from a normie mindset, there is no need to use I2P when Tor already exists. Even sites like Facebook and Twitter have onion domains. Which goes with my point earlier in that there are plenty of darknets out there. There will always be an obscure one.

     And I'd say that the internet was already mainstream by the 90s. Except that, normies only used it for taxes and stock trading.

   • 寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 23:15:00 JST 寮

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     • xianc78
     The reason why I'd put I2P over Tor here is because of the address book feature in I2P, so you can have something like "xianc78.i2p" rather than "xianc78weiod9fjhf98owrejuf9803wujt90834wujfg089oerj890gj89e0i3w4orjg43werjutfg09rujg09euj098tgeuj908tg90r.onion".
     People are so accustomed to easy to remember domains, I can't see anyone going to remember Onion addresses, not even nerds like you and me.
     pilinsin likes this.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 31-Mar-2023 23:16:42 JST xianc78

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     @ryo But you still have to add it to your address book. It's pretty cumbersome.

   • Trolerus Cognitus (troler@social.076.moe)'s status on Saturday, 01-Apr-2023 01:14:29 JST Trolerus Cognitus

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     How about IPFS?
   • 寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Saturday, 01-Apr-2023 11:33:38 JST 寮

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     • Trolerus Cognitus
     I tried IPFS before, but computer fans were running wild, and your IP + location are being exposed to the entire world for as long as you run the daemon.
     And updating your website on IPFS is a pain in the asshole too.
     I know there's an IPNS too which is more suitable for websites, but still comes with all the other problems.
     
     As I said a week or so ago, why do we need IPFS if we already have BitTorrent?