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@coolboymew
Wonderland was kind of a shitshow tbh, I dunno what happened production side but they straight up forgot to give it an ending, otherwise it would have been kino
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@Elfie They did give it an ending. It was just a shitshow because part 2 kinda sucked even in manga form, they skipped the best arc in part 2 (as I'm told), and then people got immensely pissy when they summarized part 3 in a 10 seconds slideshow to hurry up for their happy ending
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@coolboymew
That sucks, I'm mainly saying it didn't have an ending because I just didn't get it, it was so strange and all those jumps you're talking about made it feel like the show ended 3 times all with different outcomes
I'll check the mango, seems nicer
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@Elfie @coolboymew
The manga ending felt kind of the same way if I remember. The first part was very well done, and then the second part kind of felt like it was going somewhere even if it had a lot of lackluster moments. The third part felt like very rushed and disjointed. I just kinda remember thinking to myself that it seemed like the author had a rough idea of what they wanted the story to be, but by the time it got there they had no real idea on how to execute it and just wanted the series to end.
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@CrushBead @Elfie yeah... it's one of those that probably never should have had a sequel
It was the same season as the disastrous Re:Zero S2 (part 2?) too
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@CrushBead @Elfie I disagree with it being shit from the start, but goddamn S2 was a complete storytelling disaster
>Stuck in a small village for 2 fucking cours
>Introduces a billion mysteries
>"Oh, something major is happening, the character will probably explain something"
>Manages to answer fucking nothing
>Emilia being a useless POS for the entire season
>Best girl nowhere to be seen
>Some new to be ally is basically nothing but a side distraction to the actual mysteries
>Goes into episodes (yes, plural) long flashback that's rather irrelevant and explains very little of the ongoing mysteries
Fucking hell
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@coolboymew @Elfie
Oh Re:Zero was dogshit from the start. Still blows my mind that shit got adapted from the start. Literally the only good thing to come out of it was meme Mastodon AMVs
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@coolboymew @Elfie
Mind you I just read the web novels but the writing was unimaginative, the plot was contrived, and the execution was sloppy. It was like the author had a half decent idea but lacked the talent to present it in a way that wasn't ham-fisted and trite.
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@CrushBead @Elfie
I heard that the novels has these horrible long flashbacks for every single characters, which S1 entirely cut. S1 might've just been a director fluke, cutting the fat as a good adaptation sometimes do
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@CrushBead @Elfie But there's also the thing where there seems to be two fanbase, one that's there for the character growth (why) and one that has been enjoying the suffering (which S2 part 2 heavily lacked) and I'm definitively in the suffering category
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@coolboymew @Elfie It wasn't that, the story was just really badly written.
Let me give you an example. I read this web novel called Spearman and Black Cat. Shit is legit amazing. The author is one of the most creative authors I have ever read and has made this elaborate world with all these incredibly unique characters, races, theology, and an insanely detailed history. He frequently goes on these extended detours to explore other characters, the past, and world changing events. Never once does it get boring or detract from the main story since the execution is so excellent that it feeds into and enhances the main story. I haven't even bothered to look into the LN adaptation since the WN is just that well written. If the author had one flaw it is that he tends to go off into exceedingly long descriptions of the titular black cat from the titular spearman's point of view. I am extremely inclined to believe that the author doesn't get out much and really only has their pet cat as a companion owing to how the story dips into purple prose for pages of almost every chapter describing the cat's grace, fuzziness, and personality. I mean I get that it helps keep the cat as an actual character rather than a plot device for the MC, but lol this nigga loves his kitties a little too much.
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@CrushBead @Elfie
>Elaborate world
Isekai is the wrong genre for that. The entire point of Isekai for writers if that they can forgo explaining a lot of the setting, you're supposed to just understand through sheer cultural osmosis