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1. Meko #nowar (yura@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 00:50:55 JST Meko #nowar

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   • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:
   @untsuki Also I hate how telegram being (successfully) advertised as secure and encrypted platform, while "encrypted" part is somewhy very inconvenient and featureless to the point when almost anybody uses it.
   
   Even XMPP is more convenient than encrypted Telegram chats.
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   • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo: (untsuki@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 00:50:56 JST Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:

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     @yura It was the only one I was able to push some of my friends to use... Until it got blocked and they got too lazy to enable vpn every time (while built in proxy wasn't reliable), so they fallbacked to Telegram...
   • Meko #nowar (yura@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 00:50:57 JST Meko #nowar

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     • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:
     @untsuki honestly I feel like Signal is currently the best free secure communication app.
     
     Also I wish it had public channels it the way similar to telegram
   • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo: (untsuki@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 00:50:59 JST Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:

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     • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:
     I just looked at people in youtube comments reacting at situation where us government recommended Signal messenger. It was like an entire comment section dedicated to arguing whether Signal is backdoored, or whether our operating systems backdoored and it doesn't matter, or whether our whole life is already backdoored, or whether it's all a psyop and that youtuber is a federal agent for recommending the same thing as CIA.
     
     Just looking at it for several minutes made me feel sick. Like, that's just... Pointless. This whole community of not even anonymous people are just arguing non stop based on whole layers of assumptions that aren't baseless but still aren't enough to prove any accusation they are making, so the only thing they do is alienate anyone who isn't into that debate.
     
     That's the thing, alienation. A lot of people outside of privacy-aware circles have wrong assumptions that those circles are made out of criminals or conspiracy theorists, and those commenters aren't beating that accusations
   • Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo: (untsuki@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 00:51:00 JST Tired Wolfboy :gyate_momiji_awoo:
     Hot take?
     
     I think the actual goal we (as community of people caring about) should be placing before ourselves in terms of encryption, privacy, anonymity, etc. is normalizing any improvement as natural thing to want.
     
     Not making an ideal e2ee messaging that is impossible to circumvent, but making e2ee messenger that is easy to use for anyone. Not advocating for people that are already caring about their privacy to go further, but advocating for everyone to care about their privacy at least to some extend.