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1. Taylan Kammer (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 18:33:21 JST Taylan Kammer

   • LS
   • cjd
   @meowski @lain @cjd
   
   > it's well known that soy is mildly estrogenic. try eating it every day and watch yourself grow b**ch tits
   
   Provide me with a single scientific study that concludes the daily consumption of normal amounts of soy being able to cause gynecomastia in otherwise healthy male populations.
   
   LOL, I've actually found a case study of one 60 year-old man who was consuming literally 3 fucking liters of soy milk every day, which seems to have been the cause of his gynecomastia:
   
   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18558591/
   
   This is exactly why I said "normal amounts of soy" above, before I even looked for studies. Any kind of food stuff can end up poisoning you if you consume ridiculous amounts of it every day. For example, liquorice can kill you if you over-consume it to an absurd extent:
   
   https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/rare-case-of-black-licorice-poisoning-kills-man-in-massachusetts/
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 18:33:19 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     • :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:
     @Alex i had heard it was estrogenic but then some engineer got very angry at me for asking about it and said some other testosterone studies were done on it.
     
     i shrugged because i have to do carbminning anyway
   • :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 18:33:20 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     • LS
     • cjd
     If the "soy makes you grow boobs" thing was true then literally all of japan and china would have massive boobs, men and women
   • CMD (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 18:33:40 JST CMD

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     • LS
     • cjd
     • :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:
     @taylan @Alex @meowski @lain @cjd If we're going to be dead serious about this, then there is a good point to be made for unfermented soy - particularly tofu - being a bad source of protein. There is a good reason that asian cultures invented things like "soy sauce," "stinky tofu," and "natto," and it's because the fermentation process breaks down a lot of things that people just cannot digest. When you try to consume unfermented soy...the stomach doesn't do too good, and it causes problems.
     
     Also, average consumption of soy protein in Japan/China is like 10g/day, which is about equivalent to...about one cup of soymilk a day. Not altogether that much.
     † top dog :pedomustdie: likes this.
   • Taylan Kammer (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2024 18:33:41 JST Taylan Kammer

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     • LS
     • cjd
     • :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:
     @Alex @meowski @lain @cjd
     
     I was going to say that but then they would have probably retorted with something like "that's why Asian men are effeminate hurr durr." :blobcat-googly: