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1. hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 21:57:16 JST Hyolobrika

   Interesting.

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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:01:43 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika I have this fairly large part of me that just wants to throw away every single time keeping device and limit the precision of my awareness of time to what I can easily observe in nature. Not only do I think there is little need to be constantly focused on time, I also think that measuring time with high precision is actually inaccurate (due to the relativity of time itself) and requires tons of adjustments so we can all feel like we are experiencing a shared constant and consistent flow of time when in fact our experience of that time differs quite a bit.
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     @Hyolobrika nearish to the DC area.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:16:21 JST Hyolobrika

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     @thatguyoverthere Where do you live?

   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:16:33 JST Hyolobrika

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     @thatguyoverthere I think I know, but I don't want to dox you without your consent.

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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:28:20 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika only becomes apparent but it is always a factor and over a long enough timespan small variations could lead to magnificent differences in experience.
     
     I'm pretty sure even gravity has an effect on time but I'm no physicist so I could definitely be wrong.
     
     I know it isn't possible to throw out time keeping without losing the ability to schedule things with others, but if a self sufficient community cared less about time it would be appealing to give it a go. The lowest level of stress I've ever felt has been times where I've disconnected from everything including clocks and just enjoyed the present. I think tracking time too closely can lead to stressing about the future more than is necessary.
     
     I also recognize that we need to plan for longer term things like winter and spring, but we don't need atomic clocks for that.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:28:21 JST Hyolobrika

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     >I also think that measuring time with high precision is actually inaccurate (due to the relativity of time itself)
     I don't think it's that relative. Time dilation only becomes apparent when you travel close to the speed of light. But it's been a long time since I studied physics.
     Anyway, they still noted down time in the modern way, I think (my French is not good). The author means schedule, not time exactly.

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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:48:33 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika how would one produce evidence that time dilation in small harder to measure levels could add up to large differences over long enough time spans? it's a *could* phrase intentionally. I think it would be basic math as it would really just be the aggregate effect of small variations, but the tools to measure such a thing are not exactly accessible. I mean I think you can build a real atomic clock if you have the money, but most clocks that we plebs have access to are set remotely or likely not precise enough to be suitable for testing.
     
     If I understand correctly (I probably don't) relativity is always at play (excepting quantum level effects) so as far as everyone experiencing time slightly differently it seems like it would have to be the case, even if measurement is difficult or impossible with modern technology.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 22:48:34 JST Hyolobrika

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     >only becomes apparent but it is always a factor and over a long enough timespan small variations could lead to magnificent differences in experience.
     Do you have any evidence for that?

     I'm not saying we *should* have schedules BTW. Just that they *did*.

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