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1. Richard MacManus (ricmac@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Nov-2024 00:22:35 JST Richard MacManus

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   • Evan Prodromou
   • Tim Bray

   @evan @timbray honestly I don't count Threads as being part of the fediverse any more, since they haven't enabled two-way federation. If/when they do, then (IMHO anyway) they will be part of the fediverse. Flipboard is a different matter, because they do support the fediverse in good faith. But would you say it's a full fediverse app, on the level of Mastodon?

   • Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 30-Nov-2024 00:22:35 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Tim Bray

     @ricmac @timbray that sounds a little No True Scotsman to me (no offense).

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman?wprov=sfla1

   • Richard MacManus (ricmac@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Nov-2024 00:22:36 JST Richard MacManus

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     • Evan Prodromou
     • Tim Bray

     I was particularly pleased to get this screenshot of Mastodon in there, which by coincidence included content that matched the sentiment I was going for to close the post. (thanks @timbray and @evan for the timely toots!)

   • Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 30-Nov-2024 00:22:36 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Tim Bray

     @ricmac @timbray so, you say that Mastodon is the biggest app built on ActivityPub. I assume you're measuring by number of users and not lines of code or screen size.

     Is this still true? Threads is closing in on 300M MAUs. Some percentage of them have Fediverse sharing enabled. If it's even 5%, that's much larger than existing Mastodon user base. And Flipboard has 150M registered users and I think they're all on the Fediverse.

   • Richard MacManus (ricmac@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Nov-2024 00:22:37 JST Richard MacManus

     • Cory Doctorow

     Here's my take on the #enshittification of internet technology over the 2010s, based on the word @pluralistic coined. I've added "developer enshittification" to the mix (see: React). https://cybercultural.com/p/enshittification/

     However, I do end on a note of optimism: the decentralized web as represented by the fediverse, Mastodon and potentially Bluesky. "It's a new world for those who have chosen to leave the Enshittocene behind them. Won't you join us?"