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1. Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:13 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:
   The last 4 battles of the Napoleonic Wars. Had the English and Prussian armies been defeated, the British would have been forced to make peace, starving the Austrians and Spanish forces of the nessecary aid to face Napoleon in turn. Russia would not have had the strength then to invade the resurgent Napoleonic Empire and history would have been totally altered.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:10 JST New Janny in Town

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     @kf01 @Fash-E @givenup this is retarded argument, if by marriage then the Byzantine had royal marriage with the HRE as well. Hell, the Turks possessed some royal blood too, are they the 3rd Rome?
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     @givenup NO, the Eastern Roman Empire was restored by Ivan the Great marrying Sophia Palaiologina and creating the Caesardom of Russia, Moscow was a third Rome, founded on seven hills and the seat of a great Eastern Roman empire. As for the West, it was first revived by the Franks, then revived by the Germans, then survived in the HRE until Napoleon, then it existed in France again, until the fall of Napoleon III when it passed back to the Germans and only fell most recently in 1945.
   • KushanaFan01 (kf01@breastmilk.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:11 JST KushanaFan01

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     >passed back to the Germoids
     Delusional.
     
     Third Rome is and forever will be Russia according to th Palaoliagan Claim of the ROMAN EMPIRE which was fulfilled by the blood of the Byzantine Princess mixing with the Tsars. The proclamation of the “Bishop of Rome” of the astray Church of the West trying to appease some backwater forest hut dwellers that happened to move into the ruins of civilization is about as useful as me calling myself President of the US because the PM of Canada proclaimed me so. Hell the Spanish have more claim to the having the Title of Rome than Germoids ever had
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:12 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E as history has shown all empires fall sooner or later.
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:12 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup Rome never falls, it just has interregnums. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renovatio_imperii_Romanorum
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:45:12 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E naw it's gone, it's been gone at the latest since 1453
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:47:05 JST givenup

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     @MK2boogaloo @kf01 @Fash-E well to be fair even the turks tried to call themselves rome and the roman empire was never even that hereditary as the vast majority of emperors didn't leave it to their own kids, if they even had any.
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:48:23 JST New Janny in Town

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     @givenup @kf01 @Fash-E yes good argument, what was Rome even? I think the best answer is, whoever got ordained by the Pope is the heir to Rome because during and after Constantine, Popes were the one who ordained the emperors. To legitimize their rule.
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:49:30 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @MK2boogaloo @kf01 @givenup NO everyone BUT the TURKROACH has some claim
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   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:50:52 JST givenup

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     @MK2boogaloo @kf01 @Fash-E whoever had the cunning and or military backing was who became emperor more often than not, funnily enough often a emperor would leave it to his offspring for one generation and they'd get overhron for being shitty.
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   • KushanaFan01 (kf01@breastmilk.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:52:15 JST KushanaFan01

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     @Fash-E @MK2boogaloo @givenup Baiting aside my position is the Franco/Spanish claim to Rome. still nice We can all agree no turk is getting it

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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:53:01 JST New Janny in Town

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     @givenup @kf01 @Fash-E yes the armies played an important role, but for legitimizing it, you need something other than force. Even Caesar tried to get the senate back just to make his rule seems legit.
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:53:56 JST givenup

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     @kf01 @Fash-E @MK2boogaloo my contention is it's simple gone any any attempt to claim otherwise is as foolhardy as the attempts made during the middle ages.
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   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:54:35 JST givenup

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     @MK2boogaloo @kf01 @Fash-E depends on the era, later on emperors would just ignore hte senate and rule as a military junta
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 00:55:28 JST New Janny in Town

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     @givenup @kf01 @Fash-E yeah, but the Christian emperors would try to get the church on their side.
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:00:18 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo LOOK BRO ALL I DO IS SIT HERE AND PLAY MAP GAMES I DUNNO ALL OF HISTORY
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:00:19 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo the 3rd reich was nazi germany, the second reich was the hre.
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:00:19 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo HRE was the first reich, the German Empire was the second
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:00:20 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @kf01 @MK2boogaloo @givenup During the 3 Reich's it was Germany who were Western Romans, for a long time they even held the title King of the Romans instead of King of the Germans. Only during the Carolingian and Napoleonic Empires it was France.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:00:49 JST New Janny in Town

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     @givenup @kf01 @Fash-E post feet pic.
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:11 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo The restoration under Aurelian was no different to the restoration under Constantine or Charlemagne or Otto the Great, they are all Renovatio imperii Romanorum en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renovatio_imperii_Romanorum
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   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:12 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo IT WAS THE WESTERN EMPIRE REBORN
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:12 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo no, but it doesn't bother me if someone thinks that, because the whole sitatuion is just a weird fact of history that's silly now.
   • KushanaFan01 (kf01@breastmilk.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:13 JST KushanaFan01

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     @givenup @MK2boogaloo @Fash-E my posiiton is simple: The HRE is illegitimate unless it helps my case in arguing why France is the Third Rome

   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:13 JST givenup

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     @kf01 @MK2boogaloo @Fash-E hre was legitimately the hre but that's a distinct entity as far as i'm cocerned no matter their pretensions it was a very decentralized empire
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:14 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo my argument is that, that is not legitimate because no roman would use the title king, LOL, sides the franks really? one of the barbarian tribes that ravaged the empire for centuries? empires fall deal with it. and no amount of barbarians trying to claim they're rome now for legitimacy of their rule is gonna change that.
   • KushanaFan01 (kf01@breastmilk.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:15 JST KushanaFan01

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     @givenup @MK2boogaloo @Fash-E im suppsed to be working on this report but im arguing with retards on the internet over what group of non romans gets the title rome which in roman times would get a gladius ran through you

   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:15 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @kf01 @givenup @MK2boogaloo en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Romans
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:16 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo The sabine women came around eventually, anyway its not important
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:16 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo well tbh women ain't really changed much in 2000 some years,
   • KushanaFan01 (kf01@breastmilk.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:17 JST KushanaFan01

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     @Fash-E @MK2boogaloo @givenup
     >rome was founded on rape
     WTF TURKS ARE TRVE ROMAN EMPIRE NOW???
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:17 JST givenup

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     @kf01 @Fash-E @MK2boogaloo i mean the rape of the sabine women is part of their "legendary" foundational myth, of course rape means to kidnap technically.
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:18 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo they deposed their kings and vowed to never have another one because their king according to legend raped a woman
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:18 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo Rome was founded on rape, what of it?
   • givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:19 JST givenup

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     @Fash-E @kf01 @MK2boogaloo WELL true romans would never accept a king, romans woudl never call their leader rex, just sayin'
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:19 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @givenup @kf01 @MK2boogaloo THEY DID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
   • Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship: (fash-e@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 01:28:20 JST Fash-E :windmill_of_friendship:

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     @kf01 @MK2boogaloo @givenup no because the Germans were integrated into Romanitas before they conquered it, beginning with the Latinized Arminius in 1 AD to the foederati of late Western Rome, but the turks were an alien race and culture completely
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     @Fash-E @MK2boogaloo @givenup I dont recognize the HRE as a legitimate successor to the RE. The Pope can blow my ass and if you claim its vae victis through Germanic conquests of Western Rome then the turks have the same argument