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1. teto (teto@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 20:17:39 JST teto

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   • PalePimp
   • Brodie Robertson
   @PalePimp @BrodieOnLinux I dont really care for the reason when I know the solution is as easy as switching from KDE Wayland to KDE X11 session. I dont want to debug this nonsense nor analyze it. I just want to play my proton games in peace
   • PalePimp (palepimp@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 20:17:39 JST PalePimp

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     • Brodie Robertson
     @teto @BrodieOnLinux You're preaching to the convert, I'm X11 through and through.
     
     I do not oppose wayland... once is ready, ATM is a fucking mess not worth of any serious consideration for anything serious save for very specific environments such as kiosks or embedded devices.
   • teto (teto@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 20:17:40 JST teto

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     • Brodie Robertson
     @BrodieOnLinux most of wayland hate actually comes from it breaking shit afaik. It's just human emotion really. I ditched it after a year of using it after it made my games lag in a weird way. Havent switched back since.
   • PalePimp (palepimp@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 20:17:40 JST PalePimp

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     • Brodie Robertson
     @teto @BrodieOnLinux Wayland doesn't break things, its problems arise mainly due to unimplemented functionality or bugs in the compositor implementation of the existing functionality.
     
     Wayland (protocol) is often confused with X.org (X11 Display server).
     
     X11 = Protocol (Language: IE: English)
     Wayland = Protocol (Language: IE French)
     
     X.org = X11 Display server implementation (A person speaking English)
     labwc, wayfire, hyprland, sway, mutter, kwin = Wayland compositors (Persons speaking French)
     
     The issues in "Wayland" are due to bugs in the compositor/s and or due lack of functionality in the "wayland" protocol or the compositor/s.
   • Brodie Robertson (brodieonlinux@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 20:17:41 JST Brodie Robertson

     I think the worst thing to ever come out of the Linux kernel project is "We don't break user space" not because it's a bad goal for the kernel, but because people who don't understand the context of the idea apply it to places where it doesn't at all fit, i.e Xorg to Wayland