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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 17:32:02 JST Aral Balkan

   Moderation that goes against the nature of a thing is only ever a temporary illusion. The very notion that moderate is the optimum exposes a system as unequal and unjust. For if the basis of your system were equality and justice, you would not call for such restraints. You’d want it to embrace its nature fully. It’s only when the inverse is true that you end up with fascism when all you wanted was the large house and fancy car enabled by the conveniently-ignored suffering of the less fortunate.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2024 23:07:23 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Fabio Manganiello

     @fabio Moderation as in a moderate amount of, not moderation as in moderating a community :)

   • Fabio Manganiello (fabio@manganiello.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2024 23:07:24 JST Fabio Manganiello

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     @aral define “the nature of a thing”.

     Suppose that I create an open community, where the usual common sense rules for social interactions apply.

     According to “my” definition, the “nature” of that thing is “an open community for interaction between mutually respecting adult people who abide to common sense”.

     Now suppose that one day a bunch of Nazis, incels, flatearthers and homophobes joins the community. According to them, the “nature” of my thing is an open community, and to them their ideas are perfectly compatible with common sense and mutual respect, so they don’t see any problems with being a part of it.

     How do you prevent your “thing” from turning into the Nazi bar without moderation?

     If you moderate, then, according to your definition, you expose your “thing” as being unequal and unjust. But if you don’t, then your “thing” will just gradually become more unequal and unjust because nobody wants to hang at the Nazi bar.

     So what’s the definition of the “thing” that applies in this case? The one that you have in your mind, or what some of your users think it’s the most fit definition? And how do you handle conflict between those definitions?