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1. Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:49 JST Angry Sun

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   • Matt Hamilton
   @eriner the future is centralized heavily on overt government control and broken up by firewalls between hostile government alliance lines. very bleak but thats whats coming because the good future is too hard under the best conditions
   • Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:50 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun Yeah, a social "web of trust"-like system (which I guess FoaF is -- I'd never heard of it) is probably the only way forward.

     Though, I could envision a future where it's allowed to become bad enough (Problem, Reaction, ...) that the "solution" people clamor for is government-backed centralized identity online.

   • Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:51 JST Angry Sun

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     • Matt Hamilton
     @eriner over on the farcaster network there is super sophisticated llm spam (usually gets caugght but not always) and it exists despite the traditional idea that having to pay 6 bux for an accoubt will stop spam
   • Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:51 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun

     NAS has ~1.4k active accounts.

     At $6 per, it would take a mere $8,400 to have sophisticated bots in equal proportion to legitimate users.

     $33,600, $55 less than a new model Hybrid Honda Accord, buys you control of 80% of the network.

     In practice, it probably only takes a percent or two to poison the well.

     AI has significantly lowered the bar for creating linguistically passable bots.

     It will continue to be abused.

     There is no technical solution.

     Acceptance is the only solution.

   • Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:51 JST Angry Sun

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     • Matt Hamilton
     @eriner networks are gonna adopt foaf finally
   • Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:52 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun Yeah, the spam problem is not going to get better. I mean, look at some of the Twitter bots. Some of them are pretty sophisticated (and existed before LLMs) in generating enough spam to drown out reasonable discourse.

     It's demoralizing, but only highlights the importance of socializing primarily AFK and making (and maintaining) connections with real people.

     The golden era of early Internet is ending, if it wasn't over years ago.

   • Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:53 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun It has its faults, but it's objectively useful for many use-cases even if it has a failure rate of ~10%+, as long as the user accepts that and accounts for it.

     Most of the non-remediable issues are simply side-effects of the increased tool sophistication, particularly for those with little to no technical skills (i.e, spam, people using tools to create malicious content)

   • Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:53 JST Angry Sun

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     • Matt Hamilton
     @eriner I watched a really long video about AI risk that postulates about an attacker inserting malicious code into your codebase via LLM service. It's a perfectly valid thing to think about but literally every comment is a dumbass leveraging it to argue that LLMs are useless. I would feel unsatisfied if every comment on my videos heaped me with praise but misunderstood what I said
   • Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:54 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun

     > by the right side

     I'm pretty convinced that the secret to happiness is adopting the Asian philosophy that nothing is good or bad, it just is -- acceptance.

   • Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:54 JST Angry Sun

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     • Matt Hamilton
     @eriner I am giving just a tiny bit of deference to them and their feeling that something isn't quite right about AI stuff, but personally have adopted a different attitude about it and a few other pieces of software where I admit I am spreading around a smaller percentage of displeasure to get a bigger percentage of productivity. on average I come out ahead using AI so I get over the "smell displeasure" of AI.
   • Angry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 12:18:55 JST Angry Sun
     like many other issues, I am becoming emotionally aligned with a more obviously worse proposition ("AI is good actually") because the criticisms by the right side are lazy and facile.