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1. Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 12:30:37 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
   There's a thought
   
   Woman gets an abortion? Charge the father with a felony.
   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 12:30:37 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @jeffcliff >Woman gets an abortion? Charge the father with a felony.
     If women are formally declared as lacking agency or autonomy then sure. Otherwise that's just gynocentric pissearth garbage.
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   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 12:30:49 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @jeffcliff I don't know what this is from, but the concept if applied to today would just be another way to punish men.
     >Woman decides to have abortion in secret
     >Father goes to jail even though he wanted the child
     no perverse incentive visible to you sticking out like a spot light??
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   • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 12:30:50 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle Blackstone, gynocentric pissearth garbage, really?
     
     It puts the onus on the person who actually can prevent abortion, especially by pregnancy-by-rape. The man. Seems sensible enough.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 12:32:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️

     @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff "errrm this is really fucked up bc the way you said it makes it seem like women want to lie for gain....we know they dont do that tho, women are the only good ones in society"

   • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 14:07:31 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     • PoalackJokes88
     @PoalackJokes88 @BowsacNoodle
     > if he knew and approved of everything someone else did to his child while he was away.
     
     what if it could be proved that he did?
   • PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 14:07:31 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle Then that's a different scenario.
   • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 14:07:32 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     • PoalackJokes88
     @PoalackJokes88 @BowsacNoodle huh??
     
     > instead of the ACTUAL CRIMINAL.
     
     the actual criminal in that case is the schoolteacher
     
     not the girl who got so abused
   • PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 14:07:32 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle Yeah, that's what I was saying. But you're talking about locking up the father, as if he knew and approved of everything someone else did to his child while he was away.
   • PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 14:07:33 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff Even then, it's a stupid standard. Children legally lack agency & autonomy, but the parents don't get imprisoned if the child gets molested by a schoolteacher or something. It acts like parents are omnipotent and puts the onus on them instead of the ACTUAL CRIMINAL.