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1. minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:02:14 JST minute

   TIL about the EU keyboard layout https://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/start.html

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:24:58 JST minute

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     • ɗ𐐩ʃƕρʋ

     @deshipu yeah, some lithuanian chars are also missing

   • ɗ𐐩ʃƕρʋ (deshipu@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:24:59 JST ɗ𐐩ʃƕρʋ

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     @mntmn of course no Polish characters. It should be called romano-teutonic keyboard instead.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:25:13 JST minute

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     • Tommy Thorn

     @tommythorn what's their solution?

   • Tommy Thorn (tommythorn@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:25:14 JST Tommy Thorn

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     @mntmn Apple already solved this and my muscles are trained on their solution.

   • Klaus Stein (lapizistik@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:56:33 JST Klaus Stein

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     • always tired (moved to chaos)

     @project1enigma @mntmn Ob du CapsLock durch Control ersetzt und dafür das alte Control zu Compose machst oder ganz was anderes ist mir gleich :-) Ich plädiere nur dafür Compose per default zu haben und Capslock nicht zu haben, bei welchem Layout auch immer.

   • always tired (moved to chaos) (project1enigma@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:56:40 JST always tired (moved to chaos)

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     • Klaus Stein

     @Lapizistik @mntmn Bei mir ist CapsLock eine Control. Control so weit unten ist übel für meine Hände. Compose habe ich zwischen left shift und z.

   • Klaus Stein (lapizistik@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:56:41 JST Klaus Stein

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     @mntmn CapsLock has to go, that is the Compose-key! (which is important to have!)

   • always tired (moved to chaos) (project1enigma@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:57:01 JST always tired (moved to chaos)

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     • Klaus Stein

     @Lapizistik @mntmn Dafür

   • RastPort (rastport@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 19:43:36 JST RastPort

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     @mntmn Not a fan of it. Using this keymap for my native Polish is unnecessarily cumbersome. And still idea of character combining as implemented in Linux, is easier to remember. When I need to write ö, I simply press ScrLock (my choice for combination introducer), then "o" then doublequote. Similarly é is ScrLock, then "e", then apostrophe, and so on.

   • Charlie Balogh (chainq@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 20:04:08 JST Charlie Balogh

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     • RastPort

     @rastport @mntmn Good points, I agree. It seems the EU keymap also lacks Hungarian double accented vowels Ű/ű and Ő/ő, these are probably available with character composing, but then why not just use composing in the first place for everything? I tend to do that with US-Intl on Mac already. It is a much more "natural" experience of writing Hungarian, than remembering yet another keymap layout. (Because this EU keymap otherwise totally mismatches the national Hungarian keymap of course.)

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 20:04:08 JST minute

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     • RastPort
     • Charlie Balogh

     @chainq @rastport compose is of course the best solution, but for languages like german that only have 3 umlauts, altgr combo is probably just quicker

   • Charlie Balogh (chainq@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 20:11:35 JST Charlie Balogh

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     • RastPort

     @mntmn @rastport Hmm, I can see that, yes. It depends on the "complexity" the national characters add on top of some standard English/US/EU thing.

   • RastPort (rastport@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 20:14:42 JST RastPort

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     • Charlie Balogh

     @mntmn @chainq Yes, but on traditional German QWERTZ, ä, ö and ü do not need any qualifier.

     In Poland we use US layout and write ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż as AltGr + a, c, e, l, n, o, s and z respectively. The only exception is ź, which is AltGr + x.