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1. イリエ (irie@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:06:01 JST イリエ

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   @MK2boogaloo you forgot to mention that Latins arrived there in 1204 as conquerors and occupiers. Look up the Sack of Constantinople in 1204. Latins raping and pillaging the city. There is also no good reason to believe some of the outrageous atrocities listed there.
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:06:42 JST New Janny in Town

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     @irie >you forgot to mention that Latins arrived there in 1204 as conquerors and occupiers
     
     conquest is a normal thing to happen, they should've done that from the start if they really want to establish the kingdom of Outremer, only by then the stability of the Middle East could be achieved.
     
     >Look up the Sack of Constantinople in 1204. Latins raping and pillaging the city.
     
     The Byzantines also did that to the Latins, eye for an eye I guess.
   • イリエ (irie@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:09:50 JST イリエ

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     >conquest is a normal thing to happen
     so is killing your occupiers. same logic. you can't complain then
     
     >The Byzantines also did that to the Latins
     perhaps in some twisted fanfic on the internet
     Eastern Roman had asked Christians in the West for help, but instead of help, they abused the Eastern trust to come as murderers
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:11:51 JST New Janny in Town

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     @irie >so is killing your occupiers. same logic. you can't complain then
     
     True, that's why they shouldn't screech every time the 4th Crusade is being mentioned.
     
     >perhaps in some twisted fanfic on the internet Eastern Roman had asked Christians in the West for help, but instead of help, they abused the Eastern trust to come as murderers
     
     remember the Siege of Antioch? They abandoned their helpers because of some who said that the situation is helpless, without even trying to send scouts to see if it's true or not.
   • イリエ (irie@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:24:16 JST イリエ

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     >that's why they shouldn't screech every time the 4th Crusade is being mentioned
     you twist the logic around, making no sense
     
     we have every right to mention the Sack of Constantinople, by those who we expected as friends and allies, but who came murderers
     
     I reject your moral nihilism, my previous point only served to exemplify that you actually have no point
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:25:13 JST New Janny in Town

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     @irie >we have every right to mention the Sack of Constantinople, by those who we expected as friends and allies, but who came murderers
     
     You think massacre of the Latins as good but when they sack the city, it's bad? I don't see how this makes sense, I thought we all agree Might Makes Right here?
     
     >I reject your moral nihilism, my previous point only served to exemplify that you actually have no point
     
     Oh quit your philosophical babbles, what matters is the fact and consequences. They killed Latins, the Latins came back with swords, they took nation and ruled for some years.