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1.  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:22 JST 

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   @PonyPanda @theblessing Seeing the likes of Sewerslvt being listed among zoomers makes you wish dubstep was still a mainstream thing.
   • blessing ☁️ (theblessing@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:23 JST blessing ☁️

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     @PonyPanda lolol i cringed so hard the last time i rewatched it at the dubstep. i can’t think of another musical genre that ages as quickly and as poorly as dubstep.
     
     but yes, you’re absolutely right. she’s so much more annoying in the book. in the movie she’s just a basic bitch.
   • PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:23 JST PonyPanda

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     @theblessing dubstep is one of two things.
     
     1. Younger millennials (the ones born after roughly 1990) in the hipster era of around 2010 were looking for more obscure niche music and found out that they JUST missed out on the Bristol music scene of the 00s. They missed out on trip-hop, DnB, jungle, chemical, breakbeat etc. So they memed dubstep into popularity because it also came from Bristol and they tried to make it a thing that would define and them and they spread it all over social media as it started to explode after Facebook opened up to non-uni students and smartphones got more ubiquitous. Nobody really liked it but people just wanted to feel like they were part of a scene. The Bristol scene. It's like how Californians wanted to get into the "grunge scene" of Seattle but found out there was no "scene." Just dirty autistic guys in their garages in the suburbs. So they went back home to California and made it a scene.
     
     And yeah... nobody liked that's why it dropped off so quickly.
     
     2. A psy-op from the Tavistock Institute.
     death of dubstep.jpg
   • blessing ☁️ (theblessing@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:24 JST blessing ☁️

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     @PonyPanda i definitely agree that the book is about not being enchanted by the glitz of it like this particular movie is. i sort of like baz’s interpretation for its gaudiness and the novel itself for separate reasons. (probably i can empathize with gatsby to an extent, lol.) i don’t think they spent a whole lot of time making myrtle look as corrupt as she was, but they did have the backhand in the correct context in the movie. this is the scene in the book.. Some time toward midnight Tom Buchanan and Mrs. Wilson stood face to face discussing, in impassioned voices, whether Mrs. Wilson had any right to mention Daisy’s name. “Daisy! Daisy! Daisy!” shouted Mrs. Wilson. “I’ll say it whenever I want to! Daisy! Dai—” Making a short deft movement, Tom Buchanan broke her nose with his open hand. Then there were bloody towels upon the bathroom floor, and women’s voices scolding, and high over the confusion a long broken wail of pain. Mr. McKee awoke from his doze and started in a daze toward the door. When he had gone halfway he turned around and stared at the scene—his wife and Catherine scolding and consoling as they stumbled here and there among the crowded furniture with articles of aid, and the despairing figure on the couch, bleeding fluently, and trying to spread a copy of Town Tattle over the tapestry scenes of Versailles. Then Mr. McKee turned and continued on out the door. Taking my hat from the chandelier, I followed. ..and that’s pretty much exactly how it plays out in the movie. she even says the “daisy daisy daisy” line. except that baz left out nick following mckee to his bedroom to get naked and “look at photography” which is one of the most sus scenes in the novel. 👀
   • PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:24 JST PonyPanda

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     @theblessing as I said… they feature the slap but no context and what an immense bitch Myrtle becomes as her circumstances allow her to LARP as a socialite more. From that same chapter.

     Mrs. Wilson had changed her costume some time before, and was now attired in an elaborate afternoon dress of cream-colored chiffon, which gave out a continual rustle as she swept about the room. With the influence of the dress her personality had also undergone a change. The intense vitality that had been so remarkable in the garage was converted into impressive hauteur. Her laughter, her gestures, her assertions became more violently affected moment by moment, and as she expanded the room grew smaller around her, until she seemed to be revolving on a noisy, creaking pivot through the smoky air.

     There’s some dialogue where Tom want’s her to get ice because she’s getting insufferable…

     “I told that boy about the ice.” Myrtle raised her eyebrows in despair at the shiftlessness of the lower orders. “These people! You have to keep after them all the time.”

     She looked at me and laughed pointlessly. Then she flounced over to the dog, kissed it with ecstasy, and swept into the kitchen, implying that a dozen chefs awaited her orders there.

     Later on in the chapter…

     She turned to Mrs. McKee and the room rang full of her artificial laughter.

     “My dear,” she cried, “I’m going to give you this dress as soon as I’m through with it. I’ve got to get another one to-morrow. I’m going to make a list of all the things I’ve got to get. A massage and a wave, and a collar for the dog, and one of those cute little ash-trays where you touch a spring, and a wreath with a black silk bow for mother’s grave that’ll last all summer. I got to write down a list so I won’t forget all the things I got to do.”

     Keep in mind this is the wife of a mechanic who’s absconding with her rich paramour.

     You don’t really get to appreciate what a bitch Myrtle is if you only saw the movie. Yes, they did cover the “Daisy! Daisy! Daisy!” bit but it’s all part of the montage of madness after Nick’s first piss-up. It implies that Myrtle’s behaviour is just her under the influence of booze or even drugs but not her under the influence of opulence. And that’s the theme of the whole book that the movie misses completely. The corruption of normal people being exposed to the decadence of New York.

     Not only does it omit the ugliness of Myrtle but it completely reframes the apartment party. Nick Carraway delivers a monologue about how cool the party was that wasn’t even in the book. And they set it to some meme dubstep because that was what was popular when the movie was made

     The overall impression I get from that chapter is that Nick had a miserable time at the party. He was always doing everything he could to bail.

     And after reading that chapter again… Chester Kees is definitely sus. I agree.

   • PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:25 JST PonyPanda

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     @theblessing my issue with Gatsby is that you and many other people can be as enchanted with it as you are when the central thesis of the book was all about not being enchanted. If it's getting everybody watching it to love the roaring 20s then it's missing the mark because the book was all about how morally corrupt it all was and it used characters coming from the midwest going to New York to show the transition of innocence to corruption.
     
     If you read the book, you already know what I'm gonna bring up. How it completely omits how terrible a person Myrtle is. How she's duplicitous and how the presence of money and booze makes become a different person and how even Tom could see it and how he backhanded her when couldn't stand her putting on airs. That was a crucial scene in the book. But in the movie... they feature the slap but with no context. It's part of a slow-mo montage of the general crazy debauchery and partying that goes on. "Ha ha! Isla Fisher got slapped! Just another crazy party #yolo"
     
     And yeah... the green light bit is stupid. The book is a cautionary tale with message to not be an idealistic simp. It ruined both Gatsby and his mentor.
     
     I'll also give some disclosure. When The Great Gatsby I was friends with an unironic r/malefashionadvice Redditor who saw The Great Gatsby as being the flashpoint of a revolution of men's fashion where men were going to wear classy suits and brimmed hats and waistcoats and cufflinks and will never ever do half-windsor knots. That might have contributed to me dislike the movie.
   • PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:26 JST PonyPanda

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     @theblessing the incel in me dislikes the treatment he gave The Great Gatsby. It really did miss the point of what turbo-incel F. Scott Fitzgerald was getting at.
     
     I remember liking Moulin Rouge but I don't know if I want to revisit it in case I find myself hating it.
   • blessing ☁️ (theblessing@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:26 JST blessing ☁️

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     @PonyPanda baz has such a special place in my heart, i feel like he’s almost above criticism for me. i know it’s bad. i was very young when moulin rouge came out; i loved it then and i love it now. i rewatched it as recently as yesterday and it’s a cheesy hypermelodramatic hot mess but it’s MY hot mess and i still love it so much it makes me cry, lol. even as a little kid, i remember finding the plot dumb but still loving the movie for the music and atmosphere.
     
     gatsby, similarly, is just.. such a perfect storm of crossed interests for me that there’s no way for it not to be my favorite movie. i love the novel, i love the time period, i love the costumes, i love the jazz, i love the baz, i FUCKING LOVE his musical scores, i love his cinematography and frantic style. he even used one of my all-time favorite songs in the score of gatsby, just incidentally. just for like 20 seconds, he subtly wrote it into the orchestral score while the green light is going around. and in an interview, he was just like, “oh yeah, i love that song! i’ve been trying to find a place for it for years!” that stuff just kills me. i can’t. 😭❤️
     
     that being said, i absolutely recognize the flaws in his movies. gatsby in particular has quite a few. i think tobey and leo weigh the movie down big time. gatsby himself definitely gets a coat of cool paint when i feel like in the novel, people were slightly less sold on his act. but, i still appreciate the fuck out of the movie and i appreciate how much he lifted directly from the book by way of tobey’s shitty voiceover throughout. (idk if you remember, at the end, tobey recites the final few lines of the book, and i can’t imagine a worse and more childish reading of these very good lines of literature.. “GADSBY BALEEVED IN THA GREEN LIGHT..”)
     
     but i love him nonetheless. and when i saw he was making an elvis biopic, it was like.. of course he is, lol. that’s like the perfect level of flamboyance and gaudiness and melodrama for him. and of course i fucking loved it. xd i’m a fangirl, i can’t help it.
   • blessing ☁️ (theblessing@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 05:58:27 JST blessing ☁️
     baz luhrmann is such a treasure. i love how he gives seemingly zero fucks in his movie and dials everything up to 150%. still, it’s wild to revisit his movies from 20 years ago and see how extremely grounded Elvis feels. i hope he never stops making movies.