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Zenless banner goddamn...
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@blueknightfrank @cris1010 @Spooke just giving my 2cents but they kinda picked the wrong game to go full fanservice with.
Guys who love that stuff aren't likely to play a game with furries in it
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@cris1010 @Spooke theory maybe most can't run it. Because this game tries on actualy service
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@Spooke @blueknightfrank ZZZ is not safe horny LMAO
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@blueknightfrank hoyoslop is hitting maximum saturation I guess. Safe horny just isn't cutting it no more.
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@Meemoo @Spooke @cris1010 I think of two playable furries. I think it's also the fact the plot has not picked up at all too much nothing burgers
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@Meemoo @blueknightfrank @Spooke doesn't ZZZ have only 2?
Pretty sure this is gacha fatigue and Mihoyo's games cannibalizing themselves.
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@cris1010 @Spooke @blueknightfrank it's not about how many furries the game has, but the existence of playable furries itself. ZZZ seems to only have fanservice as it's attraction point but
the market is already saturated with games that offer fanservice so if someone is only in it for the eye candy then they are more likely to play another game that doesn't have furries spooking their pulls. that's what I think the reason for the decline is anyway
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@Tamamo @Spooke @cris1010 sticking to their guns instead of folding would probably help
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@blueknightfrank @Spooke @cris1010 Hollow zero is pretty boring IMO. If it wasn't for the weekly i doubt i'd even bother with it.
Removing the TV's entirely from the last chapter without making the combat stages more interesting was a mistake to be honest.
Plus the racing section was literally a reskin, mechanics and all, of the racing section from the Honkai Evangelion collab. :doge_laugh:
My guess is that hoyo isn't really sure what they want with the game.
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@blueknightfrank @cris1010 @Spooke Dunno. My 4 year old phone can run it just fine.
I think the problem is that the core growth mechanics are just yet another copypaste of genshin/starrail/wuwa/etc and share the exact same problem that it takes fucking forever to get a character to a point they become useful.
Which in turn makes me not want to pull for a new character and instead just focus on the ones i already have.
Same shit with endgame content. You need two teams to do ZZZ's version of abyss and just growing one team already takes forever so i haven't even bothered doing that.
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@Tamamo @Spooke @cris1010 hollow zero is the other endgame but unlike star rail they didn't keep adding to it. And they remove tv which just makes it barebones combat only
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@supersid333 @blueknightfrank @Spooke @Tamamo @cris1010
every single tv action must have a 2 second delay with a 20 second delay every 15 actions
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@blueknightfrank @Tamamo @Spooke @cris1010 I think it would have been in their best interest to just streamline all of the small time losses that add up while playing that mode.
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@blueknightfrank @Spooke @cris1010 Most people had a beef with how damn long some of the TV sections were. Especially the story ones.
Speeding up the animations was already a major improvement.
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@supersid333 @Spooke @Tamamo @blueknightfrank @cris1010
i bet you didnt know that fairy cant open gear coin locks
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@kilostere @supersid333 @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 Fairy repeating the same lines at every lock.
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@kilostere @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 @supersid333 7 second animation every time you get corrupted. :awoo_sleep:
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@Tamamo @kilostere @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 10 second animations to ascend and descend levels of the hollow where some maps require you to go up and down floors repeatedly to advance
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@Meemoo @Spooke @blueknightfrank I mean, there's a clear limit to how many similar live-service/gacha games you can release until your fans literally can't throw money at them LMAO also remember that Mihoyo fans are fags who hate female fanservice and there's also a lot of gacha players that would never play a Mihoyo game.
I think this game was doomed from the start regardless of gameplay.
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@cris1010 @Meemoo @Spooke @blueknightfrank I stand by that it was mis-marketed.
Early footage gave the impression it would be a game similar to Rusty Hearts which would have been a good addition to their current lineup of games IMO.
The TV stuff sorta came out of nowhere when the closed beta's started.
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@Tamamo @cris1010 @Meemoo @Spooke @blueknightfrank
i decided to checkout zzz from the animation quality alone :turbo_stare:
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@kilostere @Meemoo @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 It was the art direction for me. I absolutely love the Jetset Radio vibe. :snum_sneezeandcum:
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@Tamamo @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 gachas can still print money with bad gameplay tho. So I don't quite think that was what crippled the game to this extent. I mean just look at AL (made 11m last month) and FGO.
Is the story not good?
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@Meemoo @cris1010 @Spooke @blueknightfrank I disagree. The combat is really good once you get into the flow. That being said its very reaction based and that type of gameplay translates really bad to a touch screen.
Common turn offs i heard is:
-Game was marketed as an action game and then the game forces you to do very long TV sections.
-The game takes ages to get really started.
-Way too many mechanics are locked behind behind higher internots levels.
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@cris1010 @Spooke @blueknightfrank it might just be hoyo fatigue tbh.
Comparing ZZZ launch to current shows their other games haven't recovered all that much compared to what they used to
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@Spooke @cris1010 @blueknightfrank
>They also basically did the whole voice actor cabal thing to snowbreak righr?
Yeah. The agency's CEO even mentioned snowbreak by name.
He then proceeded to piss off japs too by later saying CN voices are better than Japan's
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@cris1010 @Meemoo @blueknightfrank nevermind the fact that mihoyo is probably the one lobbying to fuck over all the other fanservice gacha games.
They also basically did the whole voice actor cabal thing to snowbreak righr?
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@Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 found it
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@Meemoo @Spooke @blueknightfrank @cris1010 nobody wants to hear dog language :dis_nyagga:
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