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1. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 10:06:09 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   Trump can actually get exactly 270 electors just by holding serve where he's supposed to and sweeping Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. There is a very plausible scenario in which Trump hits 270 and gets the race called for him while all the other swing states are undeclared. Then all of them flipping blue under mysterious circumstances and bringing the total to 270-268 creates a scenario where just one faithless elector could cost Trump the presidency, assuming the Deep State cooks up some Russian interference bullshit as a fig leaf to get one guy to flip. If you're looking for a shitshow scenario to kickstart a civil war, something like that could well be it.
   • 🎄 Rick 🎄 (praxisofevil@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 10:31:22 JST 🎄 Rick 🎄

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     @ArdainianRight Is it bad that I want this to happen?

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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 10:32:29 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • 🎄 Rick 🎄
     @PraxisOfEvil
     Nah, I kinda do too.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:00:24 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d
     @beardalaxy
     The election everyone votes in determines whose electors get to decide the President. There are so many electors for both the GOP and Dem side for each state. So if one of the members of the GOP slate who gets appointed flips, that vote would go to Kamala.
   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:00:25 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     @ArdainianRight maybe I'm just retarded and don't know how any of this works but none of the states have only 1 vote. 3 is the minimum.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:03:52 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d
     @beardalaxy
     Like if Trump wins Montana, he gets the 3 Republican electors chosen for this purpose to go to the convention where the official vote is cast. In practice all electors have voted for their designated candidate, but there's no rule that they have to, and a "faithless electors" situation has been speculated about in the past, including when Trump won in 2016.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:35:47 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @MeBigbrain @beardalaxy
     It's never happened in any case where they'd be decisive. Also electors aren't allowed by state law to go rogue in 38 states plus DC. But the 12 states in which there are no faithless elector laws are mostly red and swing states, with New Jersey being the only solidly blue state on that list. So that's definitely something where sufficiently motivated glowies could employ underhanded tactics.
   • Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:35:48 JST Christmas Coon

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d
     @ArdainianRight @beardalaxy It's almost a formality at this point, I think the number of times electors have flipped like that can be counted on one hand but it is technically possible.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 11:55:00 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @MeBigbrain @beardalaxy
     https://fairvote.org/resources/presidential-elections/
     90 times for president, 75 times for VP.
   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 12:02:22 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     @ArdainianRight i don't know if there is any actual benefit to a system like that. seems like it's way too easy to cheese.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 12:02:22 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d
     @beardalaxy
     I just have a feeling it'll wind up mattering this year where it hasn't at any point before. It seems like the kind of obvious dumb loophole that always comes back to bite you in the worst possible moment.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Oct-2024 12:04:58 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d
     @beardalaxy
     All I'm saying is that if the universe were a simulation written by JK Rowling, the faithless elector thing would absolutely be mentioned off-hand in the first book before inevitably becoming a core plot point in the last one.