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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:12:53 JST Aral Balkan

   Every time I use tldraw, I’m amazed anew how excellent it is. If you ever need a case for Just Works™…

   #tlDraw #illustration #drawing #diagramming #design #dev #flowchart #sequenceDiagram

   • Christian Tietze (ctietze@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:23:29 JST Christian Tietze

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     @aral oooh it even has rather beautiful freehand lines!

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:23:29 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Christian Tietze

     @ctietze Wait till you see the smart snapping between objects as well as object labels, etc.

     It’s beautifully minimalist. As simple as it needs to be and no simpler. I can only imagine how much work has gone into keeping it that simple.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:31:29 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Walrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

     @Walrus Looks like it’s their own font… tldraw_draw is what I see in the dev panel.

   • Walrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (walrus@toot.wales)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:31:30 JST Walrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

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     @aral

     It looks really useful. If that's MS Comic Sans, count me in!

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:40:45 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Raul Perte

     @raul Looks nice but, sadly, VC-funded and – please correct me if I’m wrong – closed source.

     So either it will have to exit (get bought by a bigger fish or IPO) or fail fast (goodbye all your diagrams).

     Best of luck with it but I’m going to stick with the open source tool where I can save stuff locally (note tldraw is also VC-funded so it’s not perfect by any means but at least it’s not proprietary) :)

   • Raul Perte (raul@mastodon.design)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:40:46 JST Raul Perte

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     @aral We've got a very similar experience at https://multiplayer.app

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:43:27 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Raul Perte

     @raul Ah, scratch that, apparently tldraw used to be open source, the latest version isn’t.

     Fun times :shrug:

     https://tldraw.substack.com/p/tldraws-upcoming-re-launch

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:44:42 JST Aral Balkan

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     Right, so tldraw is not open source any longer. You can still save your stuff locally but their going closed source and taking venture capital are warning bells.

     Gotta love capitalism. Makes everything better, doesn’t it?

     https://tldraw.substack.com/p/tldraws-upcoming-re-launch

   • Benjamin Balder Bach (benjaoming@social.data.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:45:13 JST Benjamin Balder Bach

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     @aral here's an alternative with an Open Source license: https://dgrm.net/ (I've tried it for a few small things and it's great)

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:45:43 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Benjamin Balder Bach

     @benjaoming Thanks. I thought tldraw was open source still. Hadn’t seen that they’ taken venture capital and gone closed source.

     Yay, capitalism.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:46:09 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Tim

     @letime64 Not related, afaik.

   • Tim (letime64@mamot.fr)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 18:46:10 JST Tim

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     @aral it looks like https://excalidraw.com but simpler, is it related ?

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 19:05:51 JST Aral Balkan

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     This is the older, open source version (MIT license) of tldraw:

     Online: https://old.tldraw.com

     Source code: https://github.com/tldraw/tldraw-v1

     Not nearly as nice as the current version (no auto snapping, auto text flow, custom font, etc.) but could be something someone forks and enhances in a similar direction.

     #tldraw #FOSS #openSource #diagramming #drawing #illustration

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 19:07:31 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Mayank

     @mayank Nope – source is available but not open source: https://github.com/tldraw/tldraw/blob/main/LICENSE.md

   • Mayank (mayank@front-end.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 19:07:32 JST Mayank

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     @aral it looks still open source (at least partially)? https://github.com/tldraw/tldraw/tree/main/apps/dotcom/client

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 19:08:06 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Benjamin Balder Bach

     @benjaoming They got VC.

   • Benjamin Balder Bach (benjaoming@social.data.coop)'s status on Thursday, 10-Oct-2024 19:08:07 JST Benjamin Balder Bach

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     @aral Oh interesting that it used to be open source and isn't anymore. I've seen other open source 1-person sideprojects developing their business side to a worrying degree. Of course, the person doing it needs an income... but changing the license and selling it is not it.