@theorytoe >take kiev in 3 days

except russia never said that

do you know where that came from? I do. it came from a RAND (western thinktank) report written in 2016, and was based on an entirely different scenario

so essentially, the west made up a ludicrous win condition for russia, and then declared russia incompetent when it didn't accomplish it

russia *didn't even try* to take kiev. they pressured it for the purposes of negotiation, then left rather than attack it. they don't *want* to attack it in force, and if they did, kiev would be a burnt out ruin by now

this is what I mean, if you're just casually observing all you're going to hear is nonsense like this