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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 04:04:55 JST Aral Balkan

   Just because we partner with the Torment Nexus doesn’t mean we’re not working to create alternatives to the Torment Nexus.

   – Social Web Foundation (Meta and friends.)

   #SocialWebFoundation #Meta

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 13:12:26 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Ben Royce 🇺🇦

     @benroyce This.

   • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 13:12:27 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦

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     @aral

     why don't people understand that working with likes of #meta #facebook #threads is only you lose, they win, in every scenario

     why don't people understand that?

     is it a concern for money?

     is it a concern for clout?

     what?

     you can never make a deal with the devil where you come out on top

     never

     #socialwebfoundation #fediverse #mastodon

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 13:18:27 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Ben Royce 🇺🇦
     • Tyrion 🐧🏴‍☠️

     @TyrionTargaryen @benroyce They need to own and control it all. In their worldview, it’s a zero-sum game. Any threat, however small, to their dominance must be controlled. Especially if it has legitimacy. The one thing they can’t buy is legitimacy. That’s what grassroots fediverse projects are affording them by “partnering”. The astronomic power differential in any such “partnership” is what enables embrace, extend, extinguish. It’s sad to see, over and over again.

   • Tyrion 🐧🏴‍☠️ (tyriontargaryen@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 13:18:28 JST Tyrion 🐧🏴‍☠️

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     • Ben Royce 🇺🇦

     @benroyce @aral

     What I don't get is why the tech companies are even bothering with us.

     This is a "tough crowd", more prone to run off elsewhere than to give in. Are we really that many that they want to invest time and money here?

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 17:56:11 JST Aral Balkan

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     • 𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤
     • Ben Royce 🇺🇦

     @andytiedye @benroyce I fail to see how that follows from the point being made here but both of those things can be readily implemented as part of ActivityPub or, at worst, extensions to it or in a federated protocol in general (in fact, it already does: Mobilezon is a federated events app with invitations: https://joinmobilizon.org/en/)

   • 𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤 (andytiedye@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 17:56:12 JST 𝓐𝓷𝓭𝔂𝓣𝓲𝓮𝓭𝔂𝓮 𓀤

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     • Ben Royce 🇺🇦

     @benroyce @aral The Fediverse is designed to be a decentralized replacement for Twitter. It lacks many of the features of Facebook, such as events and invitations thereto.