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How many people complaining on social media about Mozilla have donated > $1000 to Mozilla?
Zero?
That's what I thought
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@feld Why would they donate a single dime to Mozilla "We need more than deplatforming" Foundation?
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@feld Even ignoring their agenda for a second, it's clear the sole reason Mozilla still exists as an entity is to seep Google's antitrust money. They don't care about community lest they wouldn't have shutdown community forums in favor of invasive telemetry resulting in the browser performing more and more like Chrome with different skin. Perhaps the only party that keeps it in check is Tor team who are cooperating in order to build their browser bundle.
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@feld 1. Any resident of a nation with free speech protections has a right to complain about whatever they want.
2. There are no guarantees the funds would go to an actual browser development and not some bullshit like diversity campaigns, 10px margin increases in interface or an useless service that's due to shutdown in a couple months.
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@mint if you aren't willing to fund their existence you have no right to complain about how they get their funding and what their product roadmap looks like.
Most outspoken open source proponents these days are just toxic personalities who beg, scream, and demand results and nobody should listen to their opinions on anything. They want to pretend these projects are akin to a government run social program that should serve their needs.
It's like crying about the local food bank closing and how that's going to impact your community. Oh wait you never donated to the food bank before? Huh, shocking.
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@feld For the most part I've wrangled it into doing what I want, yes. I wish I didn't have to, but my expectations of nice things have long withered.
>how things look if Mozilla completely disappears and the entire browser project falls apart
That would be an improvement. When MySQL got Oracle'd, we got MariaDB, same with Open/LibreOffice. I have no doubts a community fork of Firefox is possible to emerge when shit finally hits the fan.
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@mint so then I guess it's time for people to SFTU and write the code themselves and donate infrastructure hosting too. Because they're not gonna be happy with how things look if Mozilla completely disappears and the entire browser project falls apart.
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@feld i make 11 united states dollars a day working 12 hour shift in a poisonous frog goo extraction factory
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@feld you get more goo out by hands with no gloves on that's for sure
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@bara they'll never automate that job, that's for sure
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@mint MariaDB is worse, and now that's dead because Monty sold it again to a venture capitalist lol
I think one of the most difficult parts of a community fork of Firefox will be the build infrastructure and hosting the binaries. Nobody's gonna want to support Firefox-sized downloads that happen millions of times per day. (200M users * ~50MB for a patch)
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