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1. 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:04:45 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
   when your rave has as much energy as a nursing home party
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:09:01 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     people used to shit on bronies but holy shit did they go hard back then. HRT really did ravage the nerd community like crack.
     
     Everyone here seems a lot more "normal" than cons in 2023 and it's scary.
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   • Max Mustermann (maxmustermann@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:10:12 JST Max Mustermann

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     @PhenomX6 Those people are still masked up?
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:10:12 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Max Mustermann
     Yes are you shocked it's the furry con circuit, it's like wondering why certain demographics eat at certain fast food joints.
     
     Look at this furcon malding that they can't force people to get heckin boosters
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:32:33 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     It’s crazy to think that even the most autistic of the nerd scenes was more normal than a mainstream nerd scene is today nearly 8-10 years ago, but in that time:

     • Social media, and websites that focused around nerd culture didn’t just go political, but they went all in on it.
     • While there was a lot of entryism (highlighted by Anita being caught on tape saying she didn’t play games years before her video series, Brianna Wu injecting itself into GG, and on the other side all the ecelebs who used GG for clout from Milo to Ethan Ralph to PJW to QuarterPounder), the hard truth nobody wants to admit is that everyone wound up picking sides, if not before GG during it. Case in point, when Sam Hyde was a lot more political and provocative in 2016-7 around the time of the world peace saga with [a:s], I remember him saying something that it was literally impossible to be in comedy and all and apolitical around this time.
     • In the furry “fandom” in particular, they didn’t just go turbo political but they went political harder and faster than everyone else. Cons were shut down because of people threatening each other, or at least harassing the shit out of hotels and con operators and attendees. By the time the COVID scare hit, the fandom was pretty damn good about virtue signaling the {current thing}.
     • Everyone and their grandma decided they were transgender seemingly. Anyone who can describe 2016-8 can describe one thing other than the meltdowns over Trump winning and the two minutes hate over CVille, or Twitter purges: it was not uncommon for entire discord chats to “come out” as trans one by one, with an entire framework there to harass you or cut you off if you spoke out about the dangers.
     • When the COVID scare happened, furries went all out to ensure that those not pure would not stay in their community. Aside from harassing every single person who wouldn’t virtue signal for George Floyd, the fandom was very self policing about wrongthinkers since that political shitstorm I’ve alluded to. They would literally dox and harass any furry who dared to consider holding a furmeet during the height of the COVID scare. But when cons began again, they were literally having over the top shows to make sure that you had vaccination proof and masked at all times.
     • A lot of furries, tired of both these issues and the autismlord behavior of furries, decided to call it quits with the “fandom”. The rest are getting eaten alive, refusing to just find another community.
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 07:41:55 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     To cap off this series of effortposts, one more inconvenient truth I think is worth noting is that in the furry scene, there's two things worth remembering. The first is that furries are highly influenced by each other, if you're an artist you'll get numerous autists copying you or wanting a character in your universe. The second thing is that well, furries are influenced by porn and fetishes. The third is that many broken people use the fandom to have every single fetish enabled, without the fear of mom and dad's disapproval. But don't take my word for it.
     
     One blog by a furry who was running a website hosting one infamous furry survey had a gem of a schizopost a few years back saying the quiet part out loud; that said author would not have been pressured into it so easily if not for being in a community that literally enables it.
     https://archive.fo/A6ek0
     
     Essentially, the furry "fandom" was a perfect storm for this mindset to catch fire. By offering the delusion of "true self", one can be convinced if they put on socks and take drugs, their life will be fixed, and this is made worse by the fact that every furry you run across online will be miserable, depressed, and trying to find their place in life.
     
     The furry fandom is not about being a fan of media about talking animals. It's about escapism and escaping into a world where everything is good, and nothing bad ever happens, and you want to live this world of dopamine hits all day long. It's no different than Second Life, a form of escapism for broken nerds to waste their brains away on, delaying the inevitable.
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   • Flaky (flaky@the9thcircle.club)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:24:41 JST Flaky

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     @PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com The first is that furries are highly influenced by each other, if you're an artist you'll get numerous autists copying you or wanting a character in your universe.Reminds me of what I saw when This Fursona Does Not Exist came out. For context, some furry trained an AI / ML model on head shots from e621. It was very impressive at making new fursonas, as well as anime catgirls and Sonic OCs (keep in mind this was during the COVID lockdowns, before the AI art boom of 2022), though the amount of art of certain characters did mean the model suffered from overfitting to an extent so you were seeing clones of certain characters like Renamon, Nick Wilde and Toriel. Also, forget about generating anything that's not canine or feline.
     
     Furries on Twitter got so fucking mad that they were trying to do all they get the furry who made it to stop (down to sending bogus DMCAs). You could see some parallels back then to the pant-shitting that's going on with AI art since late last year. Thankfully it didn't stop that furry and he made a new version that was a Colab notebook with sliders to make your perfect AI generated fursona.
     
     Someone who's not a furry, who was affiliated with the creator of TFDNE through a Dark Souls Discord server, did a pretty good writeup on r/HobbyDrama, and one comment he made is that furries are so generic and derivative that it's easy to point at any art and go "hey that looks like so-and-so!"

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:25:34 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Flaky
     The latter part is 100% true with furry art. The thing is, furries are literally the worst of the stereotypical dA mindset of accusing everyone of art theft for no reason and with zero proof.
     
     It's to the point where "you stole my style" is the #1 complaint which is funny. Nothing is original by that logic.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:35:32 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Flaky
     At one point in the 90s-mid 00s there were plenty of influences earlier furries had when furries actually consumed any sort of media that they were not told to (Zootopia, The Bad Guys, etc.).
     
     The top influences were Disney and WB cartoons for the older generation, along with Saturday Morning shows. For the 2000s, it was Pokemon (and to a lesser extent Digimon, but many western furries have not watched it), Sonic, and various characters from anime/JRPGs ranging from Dot Hack (same devs as Tail Concerto/Solatorobo) to various "talking animal characters" from Anime. Dreamworks cartoons never had the same following Disney ones did as Disney moved away from "talking animal movies" for the most part in this era. There were a few other B-tier serieses that were influential in the Japanese scene such as LegendZ (another anime literally only known because of one character hardcore weebs and "kemono" sceners wanted to fuck, directly influenced Sergal characters), and some forgotten ones I can't name presumably.
     
     Nowadays? Usually each other, no joke.
   • J上校🎄🎄🇺🇦 (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:35:33 JST J上校🎄🎄🇺🇦

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     @PhenomX6 @flaky furry art all seems kinda samey tbh. the smut in particular. who are they all copying?
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:36:57 JST xianc78

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     • Max Mustermann

     @PhenomX6 @maxmustermann >y'all

     That one word right there tells you there is going to be some ultra-twitter style virtual signaling.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Mar-2023 08:43:08 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • J上校🎄🎄🇺🇦
     • Flaky
     I think the big reason it feels samey is the fact that furries are quite frankly not as creative as they want to be seen as. The fandom quite frankly sucks at creating games, or stories longer than just another smut comic for patreon dollars, or something that other nerds will shill the shit out of.
     
     There are a lot of creative scenes, even in the west, that are vastly more creative than the modern day furry community IMO.