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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 20:30:49 JST nixCraft 🐧

   Now that Mozilla Firefox is adding AI directly to its browser, are there any browsers without AI or LLM? I don't want anything to do with the current LLM and AI, which I strongly believe stealing from artists, and all AI companies are freeloaders. It is a bit disappointing to see open-source software adopting something like this. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/ai-services-on-firefox/

   • nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 20:41:45 JST nixCraft 🐧

     • Thaha Jemni

     @notmybackdoorbug is there such thing right now? They are sending data to usual suspects like OpenAI and others.

   • nulll (nulll@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 20:52:24 JST nulll

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     @nixCraft why spend time and money to jump on the AI hype, while there are client side validation bug report 6 year old
     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1510450

   • 3dcandy (3dcandy@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 21:38:49 JST 3dcandy

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     @nixCraft you can opt out and it is opt-in so by default there isn't AI
     Whilst not perfect, it's the best I've seen so far from the mainstream major browsers. I understand your stance on AI but honestly if you want to be away from AI completely, well your only option is to leave the internet now whilst you can

   • Yuki Linux (eliteamdgamer@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 21:52:44 JST Yuki Linux

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     @nixCraft I kind of assume the tor browser won’t adopt it. Though that’s its own rabbit hole. 

   • Adlangx (lightninhopkins@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 22:40:57 JST Adlangx

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     @nixCraft I have just changed web browsers! I was told Firefox was good from this very account. Godammit

   • Gabe Pérez (gabeweb@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:01:57 JST Gabe Pérez

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     @nixCraft AI in Firefox is optional, not "mandatory". And you can select which AI chat-bot want to enable. So, enough drama for me.

   • young man yells at the cloud (bamboombibbitybop@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:02:33 JST young man yells at the cloud

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     @nixCraft librewolf

   • Gulthaw :rocinante: (gulthaw@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:39:46 JST Gulthaw :rocinante:

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     @nixCraft #Vivaldi and #duckduckgo are chromium based, so.. hell no.

     Any non-chromium viable solution out there?

   • Unattributed 👤 ☑ (unatributed@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:39:55 JST Unattributed 👤 ☑

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     • Waterfox

     @nixCraft @Waterfox is based on #firefox, but has removed all of the telemetry and advertsising stuff, and integrated adblocking into it's core. They have not announced anything to do with AI. Their roadmap seems more geared toward actual useful features.

   • Penguinclaw (penguinclaw69@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 23:42:30 JST Penguinclaw

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     @nixCraft +1 for Librewolf.

   • Courtney Mertz (courtneyamitie@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 00:13:43 JST Courtney Mertz

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     There is the all new Zen Web Browser which is based on Firefox. I’ve used it myself for a couple of days and it’s really good! The team that works on that browser is always looking to give users a smooth, privacy respecting web browser, and I doubt they will ever put AI into that browser. Give it a try and see if you’ll like it! https://zen-browser.app/

   • GP (gpshewan@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 02:50:36 JST GP

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     @nixCraft I think what concerns me more - is search regardless of browser is becoming beyond broken. Not even sure a company could start again

   • Ojeh Agbaje (ojeh@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 03:38:19 JST Ojeh Agbaje

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     @nixCraft brave browser

   • P Segal (nspsegal@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 04:56:22 JST P Segal

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     @nixCraft I've used Firefox exclusively for almost 25 years and they just lost me. They're jumping on the AI bandwagon even though there's plenty of evidence that it's ecologically unsound, not profitable, full of disinformation, and rapaciously stealing intellectual property. #Mozilla used to be a great company. There are uses for AI, but the internet shouldn't be one of them. Please let us know if you find a better alternative!