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@Escoffier Puritans had all kinds of stories, but outside New England, the colonization wave had little to do with such ideas.
And, again, the point is that Christendom lost a sequence of bloody wars, which is why the political results of Christendom - defense of the culture, suppression of heretics like trannies and demon worshipers, removal of dangerous and subversive invaders like jews and Muslims - cannot be expected.
Only a moron imagines the tree will flower when its roots are cut. You seem to think otherwise.
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@Escoffier You talk like someone who hasn't read anything about he last 500 years. Where is the Church?
Drowned in the Loire by the French. Hanged, drawn, and quartered by Henry, Elizabeth, and Cromwell. Skinned alive, then shot by the Mexicans. Crucified, or exhumed and displayed in public by the Spanish Republicans. Reduced by violence to a couple square miles in Rome by the Italians. Purposely removed from the public conversation by the cunts who wrote the American Constitution.
All this murder for centuries and you wonder why there is no Bernard of Clairvaux riling up a Crusade, or Simon de Montfort expelling the trannies, or Templars slaughtering invaders at Las Navas de Tolosa, or Edward expelling the shapeshifters from the realm.
The roots of the tree are cut, why no flowers?
Men with guns have been winning a murderous war against the ability of the Church to do anything at all in the secular world, but you wonder what is wrong with the Christians.
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@Sulla_Felix Remind me why did the Christians come to America again? (hint: 2A)
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@Escoffier Oh. Yes. You're repeating that story you were told in school about the search for religious freedom leading men of conscience to brave the seas and establish a new nation. That's charming.
But the point is that one can't really complain that Christendom isn't doing Christendom things when Christendom lost a long and bloody war to... well, to the people who wanted things to be exactly as they are now.
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@Sulla_Felix Uh, are you saying persecuted Christians didn't come to America to escape persecution?
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“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?” A. Hitler
Hitler has often been lambasted for saying this but if I'm being honest I understand completely where he is coming from.
A question I've often asked is this: as Communists rampaged in the streets of Germany during the Weimar period where were the Christians? Why was it left entirely to the Brownshirts to fill that gap?
You could ask the sane question today as Communists again rampage in tge steets and prepare to mass murder again?
Christianity is not a pacifist religion yet somehow this notion that it is, that we must just stand by as evil ravages our lands, has taken hold in our Churches. It is madness.
Does Roman's 13 really mean we can't defend our families, homes, and nations?
I don't think so.
So i'll ask again where are the Christians? Why aren't they standing in the gap?