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1. bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:46:18 JST bless

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   man how the hell was every japanese computer magazine like 600 pages per issue @netdoll
   
   https://archive.org/details/Io19845/
   https://archive.org/details/Io198411
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:46:17 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Type-in programs, indepth coverage, many of them also doubled as arcade/gaming culture magazines as well (Micom Basic was infamous for this). If you want to see some real doorstoppers, the Oh!X special issues released after they stopped regular publication are *chefs kiss*.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:47:37 JST bless

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     @netdoll i did notice while flipping through it that it does feel, at minimum, like a "cool new games" magazine, a "programming tips" magazine, and a "new tech" catalog stapled together
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:50:28 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Like just to give you some context just how extra these could get, at the very least Oh!X wrote their own *operating system* (S-OS) and supporting programs, and they also did a complete game competing with the best commercial offerings at the time (Sion II) as well.
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:53:55 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Oh yeah and music! MML was a big deal in Japan, every home computer had their own version, and since FM synthesis chips came bundled with many/most (past a certain point) home computers, they had quite a bit of stuff dedicated to producing chip music as well.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:53:58 JST bless

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     @netdoll thats like, mindblowing
     
     simpler times
     
     better times
     
     now im scouring through it like a damn vulture looking for little things i can use as clip art
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:55:33 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless They bring me to my happy place
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 12:55:34 JST bless

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     @netdoll 😊
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:00:15 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless They represent a past, a present, and a future all at once, how it actualizes is up to what we make of it. Personally, I like to view them as almost like templates or guidebooks, signposts for vibes to shamelessly appropriate and iterate on. It's the same with most cultural output of this type.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:00:16 JST bless

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     @netdoll i do have to work to try to channel positive emotions from these rather than like, desperation for a past where things felt full of possibility
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:00:52 JST bless

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     @netdoll THIS guy's goin in
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:02:23 JST bless

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     @netdoll i think it was when i started really digging into APL however-many years ago that my investment in APL was something /distinctly/ different from nostalgia - the temporal + cultural difference wasn't some like inert depressive yearning but the opportunity for an out-of-body experience for looking at the present moment, and an opportunity to re-orient yourself with the help of that perspective
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:03:02 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Yes, yes, yes! It's not nostalgia and shouldn't be confused for nostalgia, they just perfected certain things and it's up to us to carry on that perfection and perhaps even improve on it ourselves if we're up to the task of doing so.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:04:15 JST bless

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     @netdoll (but i still find it very easy to fall into that depressive yearning, and have to pull myself out deliberately lol)
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:11:16 JST bless

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     @netdoll but also - /who is she/
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:11:16 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless I've sent this to my one JP culture expert friend, if he knows anything about it, I'll pass it on
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:13:04 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless gamest lfg lfg lfg
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:13:05 JST bless

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     @netdoll oh to be clear she's probably from puzzle bobble because she's in an ad for puzzle bobble https://archive.org/details/gamest-183/page/n2/mode/1up?view=theater
     
     i just meant "who is she" like "HEELLLLOOOOOOOO NUUUUUUURRRRSSEE" or something
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:16:12 JST bless

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     @netdoll this strikes me of more of a Me thing than a You thing but it also blew my mind a bit that they have so many (all?) issues of garo up on archive.org https://archive.org/details/monthly-magazine-garo
     
     i genuinely believe that archive.org is the /last good website/ and the only website that still represents any of the early promise of the internet at all
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:16:12 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless archive gives me pure joy whenever I use it, so I have to concur with you there~
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:25:41 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Yeah, bootleg game copier/underground scene magazines, Game Urara is the high production value one but the vibes on this can't be beat
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:25:42 JST bless

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     @netdoll 👀 this looks like Real Shit https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Club2HD%22
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:26:49 JST bless

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     @netdoll i'll say
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:28:46 JST bless

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     @netdoll lmao
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:30:45 JST bless

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     @netdoll god damn the Oh!X covers really nail the aesthetic halfway point between 'reboot' and mondo2000
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   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:33:19 JST bless

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     @netdoll this was the promise that Computing held for us in the mid-90s
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:33:19 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless pleasure ant
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:35:11 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Also as a sidenote re: the thing about GCC on the front cover, the X68000 fandom were probably the earliest and most enthusiastic adopters of GNU software in Japan outside of workstation users, and several of the late doujin masterworks like Cho Ren Sha 68K and Illumination Laser were done nearly entirely using it.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:38:08 JST bless

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     @netdoll *contented sigh*
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:38:08 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless It's so beautiful....
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:41:55 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless A bit of this, a bit of that the approach to software sharing in Japan was different in the sense that creators just had a lot more hangups about it in the offline world, so most X68000 programs, even if they had source available, were either sold at retail or were unsupported freeware (I would imagine the situation was similar on the other machines as well, although obviously things like the Macintosh had more shareware as well due to influence from developers overseas). Plus who is going to waste a perfectly good C compiler if they can get it for free with the source?
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:41:56 JST bless

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     @netdoll that's fascinating and i appreciate the knowledge you have of this
     
     i guess some part of me is surprised that there weren't entire parallel gnu-like software movements in japan, but maybe the language barrier made it more practical to contribute to existing usa east/west coast software movements rather than start their own?
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:46:15 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless It's also why (for example) Japan didn't really have an indigenous demoscene as such, they were certainly *aware* of it (and many of the X68000 superfans were also Amiga otaku) but much of that sort of creative effort went into pushing the limits on game programming instead.
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:47:58 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless ... alongside offline art demos, probably the closest direct analogue would be the DoGA CG competitions that would be held every so often in the 90s.
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:48:44 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Gotta keep the Z80 fans happy somehow.
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:48:45 JST bless

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     @netdoll owo https://archive.org/details/OhX_1991-08/page/n143/mode/1up
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:48:52 JST bless

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     @netdoll i may not have the knowledge of this that you do but i /am/ a person perfectly willing to spend hours flipping through magazines in a language i can't read until something catches my eyes
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 13:49:47 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless Yeah same, and I also have that impulse crawling decades old webpages in languages I can't speak just to see what interesting stuff may appear on them
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 14:07:01 JST mental meltdown

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     @bless One does have to wonder, yeah~
   • bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 14:07:02 JST bless

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     @netdoll some extremely aesthetic msx uploads from this guy, particularly curious about the 'cyber hi-school' one https://archive.org/details/@volcano_anteater
   • Shane *frothing at the mouth with uninhibited rage* (foxyanarchism@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 15:43:50 JST Shane *frothing at the mouth with uninhibited rage*

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     @bless @netdoll Oh! X Magazine my fucking beloved
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 15:45:08 JST mental meltdown

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     @Foxyanarchism @bless Sharp really is just my favorite for better or worse
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 15:46:59 JST mental meltdown

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     @Foxyanarchism @bless In fairness, they had more than a bit of help from Hudson Soft (ironic, considering)
   • Shane *frothing at the mouth with uninhibited rage* (foxyanarchism@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Mar-2023 15:47:00 JST Shane *frothing at the mouth with uninhibited rage*

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     @netdoll @bless Sharp is s tier, that's why
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