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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 08:46:19 JST nixCraft 🐧

   Is 32 GiB RAM enough these days for development machines powered by #Linux or #FreeBSD or #macOS ?

   • Joseph Dickson (josephdickson@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 08:47:35 JST Joseph Dickson

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     @nixCraft yes, as long as you're not rendering video. 😉

   • Schamschula (schamschula@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 08:55:51 JST Schamschula

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     @nixCraft Poudriere on FreeBSD chokes with 32GB when building any combination of gcc, llvm, npm, and rust. I haven’t run into any build issues on my Macs, even those with only 16GB, but a Mac Studio with 64GB sure gets the job done a lot faster!

   • Radio Azureus (radioazureus@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 09:13:10 JST Radio Azureus

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     @nixCraft 32GB is low. 64GB is ok 128GB is good

     DIskspace depends on the work. For me 64TB is ok, but barely

     #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #100DaysOfCode #Linux #POSIX #advancedProgramming

   • Ursan Marius Bogdan :mastodon: (bogdanmarius_ursan@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 13:23:45 JST Ursan Marius Bogdan :mastodon:

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     @nixCraft good morning, yes, its okay, this will allow the user to have either docker or maybe vms to have a separate testing environment.

   • Alex (a_lex_ander@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 14:00:04 JST Alex

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     @nixCraft Depends on the environment. Two PhpStorm instances, PostgreSQL, Elasticsearch and a medium amount of data sometimes max out 32GB here.

   • Psycodepath (psycodepath@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 14:53:57 JST Psycodepath

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     @nixCraft i think it really depends what you are doing.

     For my workload it usually is enough. Which is PHP and golang Backend stuff.

     For Data science, AI, gamedev it is probably the lower Limit on what you'd would want.

     I would have just have a look on my memory usage during a day and see what utilize on average and use the next bigger available option.

   • benaki (benaki@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 17:49:01 JST benaki

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     @nixCraft it doesn't make sense to have such high spec on individual machines. Waste of resources, use HPC.

   • RickTimmis (ricktimmis@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 18:02:32 JST RickTimmis

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     @nixCraft: With SSD Speed available today, you can easily get away with less RAM, if you increase SWAP. There seems to have been a trend to remove SWAP in many Distro's but that's missing a trick. I have a 2009 Samsung R710 laptop which I retro fitted a SATA SSD, I add 29Gb SWAP to it's 3Gb RAM, and it runs beautifully, as though it had 32Gb RAM. Great way to make the most of ageing/recycled hardware.

   • Plakat (plakat@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 18:18:48 JST Plakat

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     @nixCraft living just fine with 16GB under macOS on an M2 MacBook Air. IntelliJ IDEA, far too many open browser tabs, terminals and other things… 8GB doesn’t work for me, 32GB I don’t need.

   • Joe | 🇵🇸 | 🧑‍💻 (joe9nf@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 18:41:05 JST Joe | 🇵🇸 | 🧑‍💻

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     @nixCraft For AI devs, the more, the better, and 32GB can get full pretty quickly just testing a model.

   • Wolfshund (wolfshund@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 19:42:38 JST Wolfshund

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     @nixCraft You need to be more specific. What do you work on? How fast does it have to be? Everything can be done in 16gb, but how long does it take? Personally i have 64gb min in development boxes, it just speeds everything up.

   • sobkas (sobkas@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 20:13:27 JST sobkas

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     @nixCraft Depends how many threads your CPU have, more threads means more processes can run in parallel, for example during compilation, so you need more RAM. I had problems with compilation while using 32 threads and 32GB of RAM. Only after upgrading to 64GB I stopped having OOM kills.

   • MLUXGD (mluxgd@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 23:32:21 JST MLUXGD

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     @nixCraft I am still happy with 8 Gibs of ram but I am thinking to buy a new machines with a minium of 16 Gibs of ram.

   • Rin3d (rin3d@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Aug-2024 00:52:25 JST Rin3d

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     @nixCraft when you arent losing 4GB to windows even 16GB is enough lol