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1. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 13:23:29 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   While modernity is amazing in a lot of ways, one way it's not so great is how people with bad social skills kind of get screwed over. In a traditional society where everyone knows everyone else, it's easier to learn to work with everyone's quirks, within reason. In a modern society, everyone's a stranger, and if you're not good at meeting and getting along with new people, it makes so many essential things, like getting a job or a mate, much harder than they would be in more traditional societies with more robust support structures.
   
   Obviously there are still plenty of challenges, but the society pulls more functional weirdos into being a part of it and making it easier for them to be somewhat more normal. Modern society does the opposite. If you suck at job interviews, can't deal with a bunch of customers all day, and repeatedly run afoul of HR, it's tough to get productive employment, even if you have desirable traits that would've let you do very well for yourself in other settings, like being smart, courageous, tough, loyal, hard-working, and morally upright, none of which are valued over agreeableness in modern corporate America. And in general the internet tends to suck said alienated socially awkward people down weird rabbit holes that make it harder to fit into society rather than easier.
   • Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 01:28:59 JST Berkeley Berkman

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     @ArdainianRight Anyone remember going door-to-door selling stuff for a school fundraiser? It was just awkward to shill candles and candies. Little did I realize that it's the closest that I've gotten to interacting within the neighborhood before smartphones got cheap and popular.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 01:35:59 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     Even in the Boomer era when that stuff was declining, you could still potentially have your dad hook you up with a job at a company at 20 and work there basically your whole adult life, working your way up. That's basically what happened with Miyamoto, to cite a particularly famous example. And Japan does provide unusually high levels of job security at the expense of demanding fanatical loyalty. But in the West that world is long gone, Your job will probably be outsourced for a few shekels, if you work hard they'll treat you like a sucker, and then you'll be back to square one. If you don't immediately catch on somewhere else, every interviewer will bitch about "gaps on your resume," then hire a pajeet who blatantly made his resume up. Shit's fucked up.
   • King Zog I of Albania (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 06:39:57 JST King Zog I of Albania

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     @ArdainianRight Ted Kaczynski called this "oversocialization" and it's honestly a major reason we have a competence crisis in the West
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   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 07:26:12 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     @ArdainianRight
     Modern society also heavily rewards sociopathy, as there's no real downside to screwing people over to get an edge when you'll never see 99% of them ever again. And even if you do, there are hundreds of cities you can move to and fit in seamlessly despite not knowing a single soul there.
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