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1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 04:41:19 JST mangeurdenuage

   • cool_boy_mew
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   >implying that apple isn't apply to buy the data
   >implying samsung doesn't have agreement with apple to share the data
   Top journalism and top user knowledge.
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 04:41:41 JST mental meltdown

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     @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew Well if they're using Signal that would be a pretty major speed bump considering the kinds of data Signal is willing to give out, even to federal agencies.
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 04:50:46 JST mangeurdenuage

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     @netdoll @coolboymew Here's more fun: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=31D94QOo2gY
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 04:50:46 JST mental meltdown

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     @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew The caveat here is that I'm not suggesting Signal is secure or that there aren't ways to extrilfate data from the devices, I'm purely arguing from the perspective of introducing enough speedbumps that Apple's anti-unionization efforts are at least significantly hindered, which I think it is effective at (especially since Apple is not a state actor and has historically had poor relationships with the intelligence community in the US where most of the organizing effort is based)
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   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 05:22:06 JST mental meltdown

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     @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew Unless everything in the PRISM leaks was doctored, there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to suggest Apple's poor relationships with glowies. As for your suggestion of post mail, that would "work" in the sense of (usually) being free from tampering but the latency is too high to effectively react to current events from an adversary who has all means of instant communication available to them, USPS is staffed with incompetents from top to bottom, and there's nothing suggesting Apple can't sabotage *that* either, especially given how lawless SFBA is in the present day.
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 05:22:07 JST mangeurdenuage

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     @netdoll @coolboymew I agree but one has not not live into a false sense of security either.
     
     >especially since Apple is not a state actor and has historically had poor relationships with the intelligence community in the US where most of the organizing effort is based
     Don't you think that apple and/or the feds could just lie ? I mean it's not like apple recently scans people's files even tho users didn't agree to it.
     
     From my perspective post mail is more secure and you don't need a mobile phone to unionize.
   • mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 05:23:17 JST mental meltdown

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     • Moon
     @Moon @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage From the feds directly? No. From their proxies in organizations like NCMEC? Yes, absolutely.
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 05:23:18 JST Moon

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     @mangeurdenuage @netdoll @coolboymew ever since tim apple took over and they're suddenly introducing encryption workarounds to scan for csam i i wonder if they're under a lot more pressure lately