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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 05-Aug-2024 14:00:03 JST 
pistolero
@frogzone @mischievoustomato @Hyperhidrosis @cvnt
> would a corporate fascist state dictate to ppl who the candidates will be....
Since the term is ill-defined, you could answer either way and anyone would have a difficult time responding.
> when theyre called to respond to evidence of manipulation in the primaries they literally say the parties have a "right" to manipulate the primaries process.
They literally say that because it is literally true. The parties may endorse whatever candidate they decide to endorse. The parties are not the government; the only issue (in my view) is that they are recognized and sanctioned by the government, so the two large parties get FEC support, their candidates are automatically added to the ballot (and other candidates usually have to collect signatures), and their primary voting is done by the same blend of taxpayer-funded bureaucracies and volunteer labor. Jefferson and Washington were opposed to parties but they eventually wormed their way in. Other parties do the same, you know,
> war profiteers
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> then we are in a fascist state.
Not what "fascism" means.
> forgive me but i do think datacenters are a contruct of today's fascist state.
This thread is fascism, you're doing a fascism on me. I say it's pointless to fixate on the term, I ask you to define the term, and then you just steam-roll and insist that $x is fascist or that $y is fascist. This is a blitzkrieg, you're Hitlering the thread, your post was a Molotov-Ribbentrop Ottoman Franco Holocaust Night of the Long Knives Reactionary Tankie, you got your Stalin in my Mussolini.
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Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 05-Aug-2024 14:00:02 JST 
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frogzone@wizard.casa's status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 19:42:13 JST 
frogzone
@p @mischievoustomato @Hyperhidrosis @cvnt big tech are almost (EDIT always) military contracted. thats what govt control means. they are big multinational businesses that have formed an alliance with govt so as to be indistinguishable to govt. they are as per the definition of fascism. a definition i've (EDIT tried) made clear on numerous occsions that the persisting narrative in all definitions of fascism is its when govt and big businesss are indistinguishable.
amzon googl cloudfalre msoft (EDIT oracle) cisco and numerous others that bake vulnerabilities into hardware/softwarre are military contracted, hence they are in bed with govt. if they have datacenters that have an enduring impact over the information we see (EDIT that information) is a representation (EDIT and manifestation) of fascism.
(EDIT I would say all major datacenters are probably in bed with govt becaue it seems govt cannot accept that the internet is supposed to be distributed and so they've been scrambling over the past 15 years to crush independent websites and servers, to replace them with datacenter-based fascists like akamai, cloudflare, amazon. etc.)
i'm surprised you dont see that, but lets just agree to disagree. obviously ur servers in your house are not fascist unless you are military controlled and contracted, and part of googl, msoft and the multinational corporations. i'm a bit surprised you lump the UN in with the world bank and WEF, they are not the same.
the UN are a bunch if ppl that have no real enforcement or executive reach, its a convening of often elected or previously elected leaders in their respective countries just talking about the best ways to tackle issues. they have not real executive powers and no enforcement. the UN is in no way fascist. if convening powerless aging leaders scare people i don't know how to help them. lol
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 19:42:13 JST
pistolero
@frogzone @mischievoustomato @Hyperhidrosis @cvnt
> they are as per the definition of fascism. a definition ive made clear on numerous occsions
If you have put forth a useful definition, or one that is at least consistent, I have not seen it, but it is not useful to discuss.
> i'm a bit surprised you lump the UN in with the world bank and WEF, they are not the same.
The U.N. has great PR here and in all of the neolib countries where taxes fund it.
Please look into founders, benefactors, and timeframes of creation for same. The Rockefellers contributed the land. You think that was pro bono? Why do you suppose they would want such an organization to exist? The World Bank and the IMF were set up to help provide "extranational sovereignty" to their ultra-wealthy group and you can't imagine why an arbiter of sovereignty and a mediator in international disputes would be useful to them? No idea why the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Warburgs, Carnegies, Vanderbilts, all the wrong people, all involved, and you "aren't sure" why I'd think that they're somehow related.
Occidental College is near here, it's where rich people send their kids, it's essentially a finishing school for rich kids. Hey, who's on the faculty? https://www.oxy.edu/academics/faculty/cynthia-rothschild : "an advocate whose work has revolved around and traveled through the UN for over two decades. In recent years, she’s been a consultant with a focus on UN advocacy and policy, sexual rights, LGBTI issues, women human rights defenders, religious fundamentalisms, clampdowns on civil society, and HIV & AIDS. Her UN experience has been centered on the Human Rights Council/Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), and the Commission on the Status of Women. [...] She had previously worked at UNIFEM in areas related to HIV/AIDS and CEDAW. She’s worked with many NGOs inside and outside the US to create and support activist engagement in the UN system." Hey, all the things neolibs love! You're right, how could I ever question the United Nations?
> obviously ur servers in your house are not fascist unless you are military controlled and contracted,
That's not what fascism means.
> the UN are a bunch if ppl
I know what the UN is; you are giving me the standard neolib line, the same one I probably would have given if someone asked me when I was 20.
Are we done here?
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