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1. Mario Vavti (mario@hub.somaton.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 15:58:46 JST Mario Vavti
   So it looks like some activitypub projects are finally implementing comment control. Of course each its own and not coordinated with existing implementations :facepalm:
   • dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 17:21:21 JST dansup

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     @mario Do you have documentation for this?

     Instead of a passive aggressive post, you could have reached out directly!

     I'm working with GtS on this implementation, and existing implementations would be useful, but again, we aren't mind readers.

   • Mario Vavti (mario@hub.somaton.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 17:21:21 JST Mario Vavti

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     • dansup
     @dansup this post did not arise out of aggression. It araised out of desperation.
     
     Great that you work together with GtS! I was not aware of that.
     
     I guess you are aware of this discussion #^https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723 and i guess you are also aware of @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️'s recent work on conversation containers #^https://fediversity.site/help/develop/en/Containers
     
     I would have wished for a broad discussion among multiple projects (including a view on their history) instead of "look, here is our implementation". That's all.
   • dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 18:06:30 JST dansup

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     @mario @mikedev Hi, I'd love to work with you and Mike on interop in Pixelfed, is there a matrix or discord I can join for this?

   • Mario Vavti (mario@hub.somaton.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 18:06:30 JST Mario Vavti

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     • dansup
     • silverpill
     @dansup i am not considering myself a protocol developer. There are people with decades of experience like @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ or @silverpill who has some great ideas too. Things are usually discussed on fedi or socialhub afaik.
   • dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 19:13:58 JST dansup

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     • silverpill

     @mario @mikedev @silverpill The protocol was published in 2018, and if you implement it, you are.

     I know about socialhub, I created it.

     If you don't want to chat in real time, or join my discord/matrix, I understand, but that is how I operate.

     I've joined several channels, its easy, but if you can't reciprocate then please don't be surprised when others collaborate without your presence.

   • Mario Vavti (mario@hub.somaton.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 19:13:58 JST Mario Vavti

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     • dansup
     @dansup from my point of view, implementing a protocol requires a very different skill set than developing a protocol. So no, i do not consider myself a protocol developer.
     
     As you know, comment policy was not part of the original protocol as released in 2018.
     
     Also there is an open space where new protocol enhancements are discussed. You know it: #^https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep
     
     IMO "join my discord/matrix" is not how actually open development should look like.
   • dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 20:01:18 JST dansup

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     @mario You missed the point.

     I know open development happens in pull requests, but discussion around development happens in many places.

     I'm not asking you to join my discord or matrix, I want to come to you, but it seems like you don't have a real time platform, so I guess I will have to resort to inefficient methods like this post.

     Are you on XMPP or something? Like can't you see the point here?

   • silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 20:01:18 JST silverpill

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     • dansup

     @dansup @mario Most interop and FEP discussions happen on SociaHub. Comment controls are discussed in this thread: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723 (you can find an overview of the current work at the end of it)

   • Mario Vavti (mario@hub.somaton.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 20:07:54 JST Mario Vavti

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     • dansup
     @dansup as mentioned, i am not the one you need to talk to.
     I am just observing how things are currently evolving and worried that fedi will end up with a number of incompatble implementations of a imo crucial feature.
   • dansup (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Aug-2024 00:53:43 JST dansup

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     • silverpill

     @silverpill @mario thats up for debate, I don't see Mastodon or some other projects presence on socialhub

     I've also already implemented a basic form of this that pre-dates your implementation, circa 2019

     That being said, I will make a thread about this on Socialhub, and look forward to your and the communities feedback!

   • silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Aug-2024 00:53:43 JST silverpill

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     • dansup

     @dansup @mario FEP-5624 is not my proposal, it was submitted by Mastodon devs (they are present on SocialHub but not very active). I don't even like it, in my opinion Conversation Containers by @mikedev is better because it can be used for public and private groups too.

     I'm participating in several AP / fedi matrix chats, but discussions there are less productive because of their ephemeral nature. Besides being good place for long thoughtful discussions, SocialHub also supports ActivityPub (beta, via Discourse plugin) so you can test interop between it and your groups implementation (if you support FEP-1b12).