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1. Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 14:31:19 JST Gabe

   Self-improvement: It's just that easy!

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 14:31:17 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Phantom Palladium
     @hazlin @gabriel >don't improve your body because Jesus said so
     WHAT :george_shiggy:
   • Phantom Palladium (hazlin@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 14:31:18 JST Phantom Palladium

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     @gabriel
     Self improvement through effort is the lie.
     
     The disconnect for your mainstream Christian, is they think self improvement is their duty. And, that God will exalt them in the next life.
     
     I see people on fedi every day, that cannot figure out why their hard-work and effort, are not producing results.
     
     There are only two paths to improving your life. One is to work with the demons, and suddenly, when you are being helped instead of opposed, you are able to make progress.
     
     But, if you don't want to work with demons, then Jesus is your only hope. And, Jesus doesn't follow this wisdom of the world. The path without God, requires working harder. The path with Jesus, is all about resting better.
     
     The Garden of Eden is the paradigm that Jesus came to restore. And, in Eden, God does the protecting, the providing, the problem solving.
     
     Self improvement? Better habits? The problem is, men cannot turn an intellectual desire, into a desire that comes out of your heart. And, if your desire doesn't come from your heart, then you have to fight, to spend will power to do what you intellectually desire.
     
     Real improvement, looks like Jesus changing your heart, so that your desires and habits, now match your intellectual desires. Then, doing what you want, does not require will power, it becomes effortless and fun.
     
     Real progress, or life improvement, looks like Jesus filling you with inspiration, energy, and protecting your mind from bad thoughts, and your surroundings from bad people. And, providing you with opportunities.
     
     It is about what Jesus has done, and will do, and not about what you have done or should do, in anyway at all.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 14:51:26 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Phantom Palladium
     @hazlin @gabriel >working hard, trying, and always failing to achieve these things
     Falling means you should give up? you are still alive not dead yet you should take the life you are given as a given and not just "im just going to died and go to heven"
     >They return to Jesus for a moment
     Either you believe or you don't, improving your body does not "separate" you from Jesus it just does not work that way.
     >man succeeds with 1 thing, he will exhort everyone else to follow his example, though he continues to fail in 99 other things.
     What does that have to do with improving your health?
     >most problems are inherently spiritual in nature
     We have a body and a soul, not just a soul.
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   • Phantom Palladium (hazlin@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 14:51:27 JST Phantom Palladium

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     • † top dog :pedomustdie:
     @dcc @gabriel
     This is the saving your life part of, "who ever saves their life will lose it".
     
     Even people who stand before Jesus in Heaven, ask to return to the Earth, because they "want to do something for Jesus".
     
     I am sure it makes Jesus sad. Because it is nothing more than a man serving his pride.
     
     And, so, it is the same, whether we are talking about improving your body, or your habits, or how you deal with situations. I am surrounded by an ocean of retards, who spend their life, working hard, trying, and always failing to achieve these things through effort and hard work.
     
     They return to Jesus for a moment, to ask for forgiveness, or to ask for wisdom, or to ask Jesus to help them try harder or some non-sense.
     
     And, immediately depart to return to their failing efforts.
     
     And, if a man succeeds with 1 thing, he will exhort everyone else to follow his example, though he continues to fail in 99 other things.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 15:13:47 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Phantom Palladium
     @hazlin @gabriel
     >If you are trying to break a rock with your forehead
     That's quite opposite to improving your self, this is quite a unrelated metaphor
     >Guess you've never had a real health struggle huh
     I have? rn im losing my weight (so is gabe) most real health struggles come from people doing the wrong things.
     >But, you seem to fear what I truly mean,
     Classic, anyways Jesus can't "help" with physical problems but the relationship you have with him will help with mental problems.
   • Phantom Palladium (hazlin@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 15:13:48 JST Phantom Palladium

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     • † top dog :pedomustdie:
     @dcc @gabriel
     > Falling means you should give up?
     
     If you are trying to break a rock with your forehead... then I hope you will eventually give up on that approach. I see many do not.
     
     > What does that have to do with improving your health?
     
     Guess you've never had a real health struggle huh? When you deal with something that, wisdom makes worse, and medicine makes worse, and your efforts are fruitless... it means the problem is too much for you.
     
     And, I see lots of people, go their whole life vainly struggling with such things. Was that Jesus' plan for them? Was that Salvation, and life more abundantly? Pff, NO! That is just what it looks like to live independent from Jesus... as most Christians do.
     
     > Either you believe or you don't, improving your body does not "separate" you from Jesus it just does not work that way.
     
     That is a strange way to contextualize what I am saying. But, you seem to fear what I truly mean, so I suppose this sort of irrational response is to be expected.
     
     You get to choose what relationship you'll have with Jesus. He wont stop you from solving your own problems. It is just a vain way to live.