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1. cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 13:35:52 JST cro

   never save when it says "ERROR ERROR ERROR" in the corner, or you will throw away all of your work for the day 😌

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 01:32:15 JST cro

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     I made an automated backup script for SAI2 on Linux (SAI2's file recovery currently doesn't work with Wine):
     https://github.com/cromachina/art-scripts/blob/main/auto_backup.py

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 06:14:11 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov Yep, it runs with wine, and pressure works, but you may need to use OpenTabletDriver. I use a very old Cintiq (DTK-2200/K) and I had to add support to OpenTabletDriver myself to get it working. You should be able to run in a VM without performance issues if you have full virtualization enabled for your CPU (AMD-V or VT-X, must be enabled in the BIOS), and give enough processing power to the VM.

   • M.Vorontsov (mikhailvorontsov@baraag.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 06:14:12 JST M.Vorontsov

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     @cromachina

     neat! forgive the slight change of topic and using you as my search engine... does that mean you have sai2 (!) running on linux+wine ? does that also mean you have actual pen-pressure working? i did not think it was possible. i myself tried twice and it only ever registeres full pressure (=mouse click) or no pressure... i am forced to run sai2 on a windows-vm (with terrible performance penalties)

     what brand of drawing tablet do you use? have you had similar issues? :cryingcat:

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 06:14:41 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov I also documented issues and some potential solutions with SAI2 in Linux as well: https://github.com/cromachina/docs/blob/main/SAI2-in-linux.md

   • M.Vorontsov (mikhailvorontsov@baraag.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 06:29:21 JST M.Vorontsov

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     @cromachina

     i have an xp-pen tablet (similar to many chinese-off-brands)... tinkering with such under the hood stuff as custom drivers sounds intimidating lol
     i will look into this opentabletdriver thing, thank you very much! and your github too, ill see what information i can gather =)

     yeah the problem with the VM is the fact that i have only one gpu and its reserved for my host... which means the virtual win10 runs without a gpu and has a significant lag+low fps

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 06:29:21 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov I think a lot of XP-Pen tablets are already supported, and if yours is not, then you can ask on the OTD Discord for a new config to be made for your tablet, which is probably a simple addition. Are you using virtualbox to run your VM? I had issues getting the GPU to work with that as well, but I think I had more success using virt-manager with qemu.

   • M.Vorontsov (mikhailvorontsov@baraag.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 07:01:14 JST M.Vorontsov

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     @cromachina
     youve given me more than i could have hoped for already with this new lead that is opentabletdriver! please dont feel obligated to be my tech support lol
     worst case i will finally have to admit defeat and buy a cheap used gpu from somebody :/

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 07:01:14 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov I think you'll be able to get it working. It is risky sometimes depending on what you use in SAI because it can freak out badly when wine's internals are not behaving. When I gather enough data about SAI's issues, I'll probably submit a bug report to WineHQ, but I'm not hopeful on it getting fixed anytime soon..

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 01:03:00 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov Looking back on this, I had actually gotten SAI working fine with virtualbox with less lag, and trying with qemu again, I ran into issues with SAI being unable to get a system identifier. One other minor annoyance with virtualbox is that the USB redirection stuff was closed source and virtualbox had to be recompiled each update in order to use it.

   • M.Vorontsov (mikhailvorontsov@baraag.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 01:03:01 JST M.Vorontsov

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     @cromachina

     i hope so too! xp-pen has never given me trouble so far =)

     i use qemu and virtmanager - i think i could pass through my gpu if i wanted to, the problem is the gpu is needed by the host lest i want to run a terminal-only version of my OS - i would need a second (however shitty) gpu to give its processing to the vm (but even crappy gpus arent free)

     as it stands the vm uses cpu power from my host to manage the virtual display, and no matter how much cpu i give, the fps is capped

   • cro (cromachina@pawoo.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Jun-2024 02:30:50 JST cro

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     • M.Vorontsov

     @mikhailvorontsov I filed the bug report: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56876
     I think if this issue gets fixed, then SAI will work pretty much close to perfect on Linux.