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1. Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 14:15:12 JST Gnarley Boot
   I don't care if you make $5000 a month, wasting money or being needlessly overcharged is never acceptable. Some pencil pushing faggot in a cubicle doesn't know how hard you work for your money...
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   • Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:07 JST Gnarley Boot

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     • gentoobro
     @gentoobro
     
     I'll adapt, I'm not leaving my children behind.
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   • gentoobro (gentoobro@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:08 JST gentoobro

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     @gnarley_boot

     My rent is $1080

     My old 600 sq ft apartment in an old building in a small town in rural Montana goes for more than that now.

     I run Linux

     based.

     shitty life in general.

     You're barely holding on. You won't be able to do that for much longer with the economics in the US, I'm sorry to say.

     Move to Mexico. You already live worse than many people here live on far less money. At least you'll be able to afford to buy fresh food at the market and go out after work for some beers with the bros (in Spanish). Restaurant work won't make much here, but we have this crazy thing called a "functional economy" where there's lots of opportunity for anyone with a good work ethic and a little wits about them.

     I raise a family comfortably on less than $1000/mo. A single guy could get by on less than $500/mo easily. There's a sign on the corner of my block where someone is renting a room (utilities included) for $70/mo.

   • gentoobro (gentoobro@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:09 JST gentoobro

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     @gnarley_boot

     If someone can't live comfortably on 5K a month then something is seriously wrong

     You can easily spend over half that just on rent and utilities for something that isn't a sardine can and isn't an hour drive from your job. You can easily drop $1k/mo on health insurance, unless you like gambling or you think that "you employer pays for it" doesn't just mean "taken out of the labor budget on a different line". Used car loans are averaging over $500/mo now. Food easily that much too. Now think about trying to save on top of it...

     I survive on 2500

     Yes. You are among "the Poor". So am I. So are most Americans. It sucks.

     But $5k/mo still isn't much either. It's also Poor. Double it and then maybe it would be a figure where you wouldn't have to worry about basic expenses going up. Probably more like triple it.

   • Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:09 JST Gnarley Boot

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     • gentoobro
     @gentoobro
     
     Yeah, I have become very good on living on less. Health insurance? Never heard of it. My rent is $1080, so I feel that. My Dad once told me I should never pay more that a 1/3 of my income on rent and I followed that for a while until I really didn't have a choice anymore. It was either pay up or go rent a room with strangers.
     
     I work in the kitchen industry, so I subside off of work food and drink. I drive a shitty, dying van that only I know how to drive properly, anyone else would immediately hate it and have problems operating it. I run Linux, I've had the same pinephone for 3 years.
   • Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:10 JST Gnarley Boot

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     • gentoobro
     @gentoobro
     
     If someone can't live comfortably on 5K a month then something is seriously wrong, or they are WAY beyond their means. I survive on 2500 a month, and thats rough. So when a company for bullshit made up reasons raise their cost 3.2x over what I originally agreed to, yeah I'm gonna lose my shit and take my business elsewhere. $180 a month may not be alot to some, but it's alot to me when my margins are already thin as they are.
   • gentoobro (gentoobro@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 15:55:11 JST gentoobro

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     @gnarley_boot

     $5000 a month

     $60k/year isn't even middle class anymore. Even $60k takehome isn't middle class in most places where you can find such jobs.