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You are a spirit, living in a world of spirits.
The lowest things are material.
The weakest things are material.
The lesson you are supposed to learn from the Bible is that God can use a single man to destroy a nation.
That for the sake of a single man's relationship, God would move His hand and destroy the largest army in the world.
Israel cried out to God when they were slaves in Egypt, and God used a single man to deliver them from an impossible situation. Once slaves, to free men, who left wealthy from their captors.
God didn't teach Moses how to assemble and equip the Israelites with AK-47s.
God didn't show how to rally the support of all the Israelites, to organize and over come the Egyptian Government.
That is what it looks like, it deliver yourself, by using the weakest of things.
The reason why Hitler failed, and white nationalism continues to fail, is because they make their whole position out of, the weakest of things.
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@doonxib @Xenophon @gnarley_boot @hazlin Its not like he closed down Christian Churches..... O wait he did. :alex_lol:
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@gnarley_boot @Xenophon @hazlin 99% of the population was Christian, nobody was running through the woods naked worshiping ancient viking iconography. Hitler youth were expected to go to Church on Sundays. I have seen no mention of Hitler being interested in the Arthurian legend. I've seen him mention Providence (God) in his writings and speak about naturalism, but he was an overall very forward thinking man. And, highly practical.
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i know, which is why i don't believe Hitler was. their NSDAP mission statement is not only pro Christian in nature, but explicitly states it's intent as a Christian political movement. I'm only leaving room that a few people may have actually dabbled in the occult, but none of them were Hitler. I also think those fireside tapes or whatever are complete jewish nonsense.
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@Xenophon @doonxib @hazlin
Hitler did have something akin to a civic religion which I've heard decribed as religion of blood and soil, or the religion of Parsival, he was obsessed with Richard Wagner's work and Parsival and the holy grail, and medieval romanticism. Essentially attempting to bring back the vitrues and glory of the old world. Some pagans in the movement also started bring back Wotan worship and running naked in the woods and vegetarianism. I'm pretty sure Catholics and Protestants were treated well in Germany but I don't know too much about the subject other than there was some famous pastor in Germany that got thrown in jail for dissent IICR.
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We don't agree on everything so I'm not going to drag that part of this out, but I saw you say something similar about Hitler in a recent post. My view is a bit different.
I support White nationalism for two main reasons. the first is that it logically makes sense to support your own people over those who are not your own people. I am more related to other Whites than to any black. a race is like a large family. a pride of lions would accept a stray lion in before an elephant or a jackal, because they recognize that he is like them.
the second reason is because I truly believe it is the message of the bible, which you know so I won't waste the words.
As for Hitler, I think his mission was sound on both fronts. I believe he was a Christian, at least as much of a Christian as the founders were, and I believe he rightly identified the holiness of supporting and defending ones own race. I reject claims of occult and paganism from him, even though I recognize they are probably valid for people like Himmler.
The point: the reason Hitler failed wasn't because he was wrong, imo, but because the glory is not his, or yours, or mine, or any mans. The glory is only for Jesus. Which is why I currently accept no possible positive resolution to our circumstances. I truly think we will see the destruction of the US in some form or another, and White men on the brink, crying out to God to come save us. Only then will He. We will get what we yearned for, but only because He allowed it, not because we could do it without Him.
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@Xenophon @hazlin There was no paganism in the Third Reich. The occult horseshit is dialectic diarrhea spawned from Jewish media concerning him was them projecting their own failings onto him. National Socialist Germany was unambiguously Christian. Every single White Nation of its era was. Too this day it's still the case as the Christian population is in excess of the seventy percentile in most White demographics.
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@dcc @Xenophon @doonxib @hazlin
Well the underlying theme of the discussion is that the historians have been making shit up to swear the Germans and justify WW2.
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@gnarley_boot @Xenophon @doonxib @hazlin There is both written and ideological proof, now the holo cost (the only thing that has any make believe) is rather about how many died not that no one died.
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@gnarley_boot @Xenophon @doonxib @hazlin Also with any video format bs take p much everything with less than a grain of salt. Unless there are documents, books, or someone with a story that you can check for your self you likey will form a false idea about a topic.
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@doonxib @Xenophon @hazlin
Wait so your saying historians just make shit up about him (not surprised? Sucks, I never know what's reliable anymore.
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@gnarley_boot @Xenophon @doonxib
I'd heard similar claims, but if you read his speeches after going to war with America. You can see things changed.
That guy, on poast, Fash-E or w/e his name is, posts videos of them sometimes.
You can also read the letters sent home by the troops who knew they were going to die. And, there is lots about their desires to die for Hitler, and nothing about Jesus at all.
They were going to die, and they knew it, and there was nothing about Jesus. Only their worship of their God, Hitler.