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1. Pixel :puppycat_pixel: (pixouls@post.lurk.org)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-2022 02:12:46 JST Pixel :puppycat_pixel:

   • Adrian Cochrane
   • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

   > The PSP's web browser is - charitably - pathetic. It is slow, frequently runs out of memory, and can only open 3 tabs at a time... But the GOV.UK pages are written in simple HTML. They are designed to be lightweight and will work even on rubbish browsers. They have to. This is for everyone...
   > Are you developing public services? Or a system that people might access when they're in desperate need of help? Plain HTML works. A small bit of simple CSS will make look decent. JavaScript is probably unnecessary - but can be used to progressively enhance stuff. Add alt text to images so people paying per MB can understand what the images are for (and, you know, accessibility).
   > Go sit in an uncomfortable chair, in an uncomfortable location, and stare at an uncomfortably small screen with an uncomfortably outdated web browser. How easy is it to use the websites you've created?

   The Unreasonable Effectiveness Of Simple HTML

   https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2021/01/the-unreasonable-effectiveness-of-simple-html/
   CC: @kelbot @alcinnz

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   • lori (lori@hackers.town)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-2022 02:15:31 JST lori

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot @pixouls @alcinnz I was just discussing this with friends yesterday actually, my PSP was some time before I got a smart phone (though I did get a PSP somewhat late), so I absolutely used that thing as a multimedia device. Web browsing, watching videos, listening to music...I had data on my Sony Ericsson but that was expensive to use so it was better to have my PSP on wifi.

   • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗ (kelbot@retro.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-2022 02:15:32 JST kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

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     • Adrian Cochrane

     @pixouls @alcinnz The PSP browser is pathetic, now. But let me tell you that thing was the bee's knees when it was new! We didn't have smartphones like we do now and that was pretty much THE most portable device you could browse the web on and it did a pretty good job. And that was on top of all the other stuff it could do. Games (duh), internet radio, RSS reader, even OTA television in Japan! Still love my PSP but it was especially rad at the time it came out.

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   • Harald von Waldow (hvwaldow@fediscience.org)'s status on Friday, 23-Dec-2022 04:01:28 JST Harald von Waldow

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     • Greg Wilson

     @pixouls
     Oh yes. And the term "hardware-arrogance" needs more exposure.
     Related: Is there a deadline after which public services don't get away anymore with the footnote "this (webpage|document) is not barrier-free"?
     @kelbot @alcinnz @gvwilson

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   • gds (totherme@tech.lgbt)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:24:46 JST gds

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @pixouls @kelbot @alcinnz Every dev (web or otherwise) should read this.

     Keep it as simple and accessible as it possibly can be.

   • CatButtes :verified_coffee: (catbuttes@freeradical.zone)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:25:24 JST CatButtes :verified_coffee:

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗
     • Harald von Waldow
     • Greg Wilson

     @hvwaldow @pixouls @kelbot @alcinnz @gvwilson iirc they have to be making a reasonable effort to resolve the issues and reviewing the accessibility statement on a regular basis (at least in the UK). Just throwing up a statement that you know the site has issues isn’t good enough. You need to enumerate the issues you are aware of and provide an expected fix date. You also have to detail when and who reviewed the site and a few other bits…

   • Nick (nlarson830@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:26:18 JST Nick

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @pixouls @kelbot @alcinnz

     This is when UI and UX and understanding the user are important, like vitally important.
     Average user not likely to be popping shells so make it as easy to use as possible!

   • Jenny S-T (jennyst@mastodonapp.uk)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 06:27:49 JST Jenny S-T

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @kelbot @pixouls @alcinnz I remember the first Kindle that had a web browser and free worldwide data. It was awful, but it got me online in places where my phone or laptop wouldn't.

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   • rickf (rickf@indieweb.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 06:28:12 JST rickf

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @alcinnz @pixouls @kelbot Yes! Coincidentally, I just dumped WordPress (and all its complexities and dependencies) and went back to basic HTML on my personal site yesterday.

     Much easier to manage and smaller pages mean faster loading and easier portability.

   • wilander (wilander@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 11:53:55 JST wilander

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     • Adrian Cochrane
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     @pixouls @kelbot @alcinnz I'm a proud owner (and developer) of a JS-free, tracker-free, static website! https://hackerfiction.net

   • Prof. Catherine Fright 👻 (catherineflick@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 11:54:04 JST Prof. Catherine Fright 👻

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗
     • Jenny S-T

     @jennyst @kelbot @pixouls @alcinnz I was going to mention this!! I used it when travelling before roaming was a reasonable thing to do and before airports had free Wi-Fi. It got me out of a pickle once in Dubai or somewhere because my flight was delayed and I could send an important email via webmail (excruciating!). What a service, absolutely amazing for the time.

   • SeanBurlington (sean@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-2022 01:51:17 JST SeanBurlington

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     • Adrian Cochrane
     • kelbot ◖⎚∠⎚◗

     @pixouls @kelbot @alcinnz When we use browserlist or check CanIUse and decide the project is fine with excluding 2% of browsers I sometimes wonder *which* 2% is it and how much are we responsible for the mountains of discarded laptops in the world...