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1. Kote Isaev (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:01 JST Kote Isaev

   • Aral Balkan

   After reading that old but still actual post of https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/ by @aral I tried to think a bit. May be I am not best at this, sorry if so.
   that anything that is not a really decentralized thing, literally a peer-to-peer stuff such as Utopia, it will eventually will end up the same way as Fediverse which is merging into few large clamps over time, like mastodon[dot]social/online I am sitting on.
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   • Kote Isaev (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:00 JST Kote Isaev

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral There are few projects who try to move to mesh and peer-to-peer architectures, such as #yggdrasil or #veilid but they don't have any mass adoption among people - either nobody knows about them, or it has a high entry barrier (need some knowledge) or it seems to lack of known apps to attract people (as veilid is too low-level.
     Utopia is closed-source, so it can not be trusted. Part of people there too concentrated on crypto, some are even look sorta dangerous..
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   • Kote Isaev (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:00 JST Kote Isaev

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral As a conclusion, I would to say that even Small Web projects such as Places/domain/kitten not immune to get concentration/centralization disease, as it too require a paid resource at some servers.
     Only peer-to-peer software that can work right from people computers can be immune enough from centralization.
     And it also restrict what such software can really do and can be useful for.
     And also sorry if my thread was sad or disturbing or non-interesting for you.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:00 JST Aral Balkan

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     @koteisaev You can run your own Small Web place on a single board computer at home.

   • Kote Isaev (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:01 JST Kote Isaev

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral Even if something "pods"-based, when you e. g. rent some VPS or something like Solid "pod", or some PDS as bluesky calls it, you still need it be hosted somewhere. At place that is not controlled by you. A place you have to pay for.
     This makes such stuff already harder to adopt and _decentralize_.
     Even if Places or other such project like this requires usage of the server-client model when you need some software running on your behalf on non-residential IP address.
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   • Kote Isaev (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 22:23:01 JST Kote Isaev

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral Moreover, whole current internet architecture is based on pyramid. Servers on top, and you, "pity "internet user" (used this term to show how situation is bad), allowed only to consume data flowing on you from server.
     Upload speed is less than any download speed.
     Email send from "residential" IP address considered as spam by default, as I know.
     Many ISP including my current, do not provide option of "white IP address" - public stable IP mapped to my hope PC-or router.