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no listen you HAVE to pick either CIA or KGB for your IM client, there's no other way
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@feld @sampo >XMPP on iOS is a trash fire
Objectively false
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@sampo I'm really starting to think that Delta Chat has a chance to win because it ticks all the boxes with the smallest footprint, has working push notifications, and the cross-platform client is 90% there
XMPP on iOS is a trash fire and the servers are just too complicated. The XEPs are both the best and worst parts of the protocol. It's really sad
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@feld @sampo Both monal and shit skin. Could you name a real problem with them?
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@dcc @sampo name the client that isn't trash. I've tried them all.
edit: within the last week, so nothing has changed since I tried 5 years ago.
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@feld @sampo >terrible UI bugs
Haven't seen these issuse
>no updates
One year and its dead? kek and yes it does connect to xmpp servers.
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@dcc @sampo Monal: lots of terrible UI bugs causing the chat thread to jump around and keyboard to pop up when it shouldn't. This is known in their GitHub bug tracker. Go look up the issue for supporting "emoji reacts" where they admit it's impossible to do without rewriting the whole app in a new UI framework, so it's probably not gonna happen
Siskin: no updates for a year which means it's basically dead IMO, but has a better UX aesthetic. I had issues getting it to connect successfully to an XMPP server (can't remember if it was Mongoose or Prosody at the moment)
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@feld @sampo >missing
It has calling, encryption. What real fetures is it missing that matter (none)
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@dcc @sampo it's missing so many features that you'd expect active development, so one year is seriously concerning.
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@dcc @sampo How about configurable link previews per chat/group?
Login / share account by QR code?
Per chat configurable notifications?
Timed mutes?
Basically every feature Telegram has?
"I don't want those features, so they're not important for mass adoption" is a pretty bold stance to take
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@feld @sampo >Login / share account by QR code?
You can share keys with a qr code
>Per chat configurable notifications?
It does have that
>Timed mutes?
I have no idea what that is, no client has that
>Basically every feature Telegram has?
Telegram?
Man this is like a miss direction type of argument.
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@dcc @sampo "why don't you just use XMPP, it can do everything you need"
"It can't do everything one of the worlds most popular chat apps can do; not even close"
"Stop comparing it to a good product!! That's not fair!!!"
I'm sorry but :what: and also :fuckoff:
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@feld @sampo >It can't do everything one of the worlds most popular chat apps can do; not even close
I did not say that, again misdirection. What "features" does telegram have over most xmpp client? (none btw). You moved the goal post to be about comparing telegram when we are comparing xmpp clients to each other.
Now the only "features" shit skin is missing are reacts and reply's (other xmpp clients have it) but lets be honest they don't really matter.
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@feld @sampo >when they see your messag
Do you know what message read means?, come on.
>spammed with LOL
LOL, this is bad taste tbh.
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@dcc @sampo they do matter, I use them daily.
E.g., for work things it's important to do something like have every team member react with 👀 when they see your message about an important issue going on right now instead of spamming the chat with text
For personal: limits the chat from being spammed with LOL and other things
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@feld @sampo >show you read counters for each message
Yes it does
>Take your proselytizing elsewhere
Thank you for admitting i was right
> touch some grass and get some real friends
:tom_cruise_lol: This the best you have?
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@dcc @sampo "Message read" only means it was visible on their screen, not that they actually digested it. And does your XMPP chat show you read counters for each message? How can you see which user read it at which timestamp?
Take your proselytizing elsewhere. Also, touch some grass and get some real friends
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@feld @sampo >blocked
If someone blocks you after losing an argument, just know that you will keep winning. :nixon_smug:
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